ATL-BIL (Was ASA now Skywest)?

[SPDBRD747400]

ASA was to do the ATL-BIL flights on the -900's but now it appears that Skywest are doing the flights. Looks like we lost this one before it even started, are we going somewhere else what gives!?

 

[Stifler's Mom]

I can't feel my legs!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[gator_hater]

Maybe Skyw is taking BIL to get their aircraft back in the western system and we get something like their route to PHL. I don't see the problem.

 

[WMUSIGPI]

Who cares who is flying it... either way it's WAY to dang far to go in a CRJ.

 

[SPDBRD747400]

Uncle Jerry just doesn't want us out West! Oh well.

 

[777forever]

Darn. It would of been nice to see a different part of the US for a change. The 700 is starting to feel like the ATR. SYR,ROC,VPS, PHF,EYW(700 version of HHH, but with no long overnights) YUL, CAK, BTV, FNT,BTR....yada yada. Routinely flying to the same 10 places, or at least overnighting......

 

[zawillif]

I was looking forward to seeing the country west of the Mississippi.

 

[Flybywire44]

Darn. It would of been nice to see a different part of the US for a change. The 700 is starting to feel like the ATR. SYR,ROC,VPS, PHF,EYW(700 version of HHH, but with no long overnights) YUL, CAK, BTV, FNT,BTR....yada yada. Routinely flying to the same 10 places, or at least overnighting......

Haha, so true.

 

[WalterSobchak]

1667 1533

Who cares who is flying it... either way it's WAY to dang far to go in a CRJ.

Agreed. Pax/crew comfort and opinions on "who should be flying this route" aside...

Primary preferred routing on this one will likely be something along the lines of:
KATL.COKEM4.CARPT..KT33O..KM39M..KK54I..KP66E..KD78A..KU03U..KBIL

That routing is just about as direct as you can pull off...and if comes out to about 1533nm. When SKW was operating CYYZ-KSLC w/ the CRJ9...a planned, nearby alternate and the right amount jetstream wind turned into a fuel-stop roughly 75% of the time. That route checked in at about 1667nm. Sure, the published range on the CRJ9 is somewhere around 2200nm...and she can likely pull it off...but not without bumping a little payload when going East to West.

While the headwinds will not, in most cases, be as directly on the nose as they were on that Toronto-SLC route, the selections for a legitimate alternate airport are typically more distant.

Regardless of who flies it...ASA or SkyWest...it's likely gonna be a headache more often than not until DL sucks it up and puts more "mission appropriate" metal on the route.

 

[boctal]

Just as an FYI, EV is not supposed to start that route until June 15th and it is still on Delta's "new markets" calendar as being operated by EV.

 

[cbrown1]

Where do you guys see this?

 

[701EV]

When we use to do ATL/STX that checked in about 1500 miles. With a flight plan as long as my arm. Once we got past Macon they would clear us to that NDB on Puerto Rico then direct to STX. We only burned 12k on the fuel. I think we would carry about 60 pax.

701EV

 

[WalterSobchak]

Where do you guys see this?

DeltaNet shows the flight starting June 15th as 4640...Operated by Delta Connection Carrier, SKYWEST AIRLINES.

Perhaps they saw SkyWest, Inc. and entered SkyWest Airlines? Who knows what they're doing with this...weird.

 

[wilde737]

Has ASA gotten their -900 certification done yet? Maybe it's been pushed to the Skywest side until ASA gets it certified, and has planes and crews in place?

 

[Medeco]

yes two are online already at ASA, ahead of schedule.

Medeco

 

[Erlanger]

DeltaNet shows the flight starting June 15th as 4640...Operated by Delta Connection Carrier, SKYWEST AIRLINES.

Perhaps they saw SkyWest, Inc. and entered SkyWest Airlines? Who knows what they're doing with this...weird.

4600 flight numbers are Skywest Airline's flights.

 

[spudskier]

4600 flight numbers are Skywest Airline's flights.

yeah... no. I've done 46xx several times in the past month on the 200 at ASA. In your defense, most of the flights are 5xxx but there are still a lot of 4xxx

 

[boknowsASA]

Maybe Skyw is taking BIL to get their aircraft back in the western system.

This is the correct answer. They (SkyWest) need more locations to flow aircraft from the west to the east.

 

[AceCrackshot]

I can't feel my legs!!!!!!!!!!!

That's funny, I don't care who you are.

 

[wms]

ASA starts at 49-something

 

[dash8driver64]

How about just keeping them out west! Problem solved.

 

[SPDBRD747400]

How about just keeping them out west! Problem solved.

We wish!

 

[WMUSIGPI]

How about just keeping them out west! Problem solved.

How about we keep them in Canada?

 

[Metro752]

Hey Piedmont started flying the Dash 8 into Tri-Cities. It used to be a PSA CRJ-700.

What the heck you guys. Omg, call the fire marshall.

 

[joe_pilot]

When SKW was operating CYYZ-KSLC w/ the CRJ9...a planned, nearby alternate and the right amount jetstream wind turned into a fuel-stop roughly 75% of the time.

75%, seriously? I flew that route at least a dozen times and never even had to think about it. Biggest fuel load I've ever seen, though.

When we first started service there was not a Saturday flight, so it was a 48 hour layover. Released at 1530 on Friday, report at 1630 on Sunday. Much fun was had in downtown Toronto. Even met Jeff Healey.

 

[jeroom]

BIL is west in relation to ATL but not west enough to be interesting (sightseeing)...
That should be a 737 line anyway!

 

[WalterSobchak]

75%, seriously? I flew that route at least a dozen times and never even had to think about it. Biggest fuel load I've ever seen, though.

For the record, I pulled that number directly out of my arse and inflated it a bit for effect. It wasn't near 75%, but we still did a fair share of fuel stops on that route...fuel tank capacity limited.

 

[joe_pilot]

For the record, I pulled that number directly out of my arse and inflated it a bit for effect. It wasn't near 75%, but we still did a fair share of fuel stops on that route...fuel tank capacity limited.

Fair enough. So were they planned stops?

 

[johnsonrod]

I can't feel my legs!!!!!!!!!!!

I suggest you don't go the fractional route. I know quite a few Netjets, CS and Flexjet pilots who fly those long 6+ hour NYC-LA and MIA-SEA flights in much tighter cockpits (i.e., Citation X and Sovereign) who would love to have the room you have in your CR7/9. Flexjet's CL300 is relatively wide like your CRJ but that type of roominess is rare in that business. So remember, it could always be worse...

 

[WalterSobchak]

Fair enough. So were they planned stops?

Of course...