Richard says our fuel campaign is off to a great start

[777_Jackpot]

While I was logging onto travel net I happened to come across the above headline on the delta net page. Does anyone else think it is a little inappropriate for a management group to solicit employee support for tighter regulation of oil speculators, when the only cause/effect relationships are drawn from personal opinions?

 

[MJ42]

While I was logging onto travel net I happened to come across the above headline on the delta net page. Does anyone else think it is a little inappropriate for a management group to solicit employee support for tighter regulation of oil speculators, when the only cause/effect relationships are drawn from personal opinions?

NO! This whole industry is in crisis. When employees jobs are at risk it's managements responsibility to seek answers. Unfortunately airline management has not been proactive, it's nice to see DAL doing something. Whose personal opinions are you talking about, oil speculators?

 

[lear35pilot]

NO! This whole industry is in crisis. When employees jobs are at risk it's managements responsibility to seek answers. Unfortunately airline management has not been proactive, it's nice to see DAL doing something. Whose personal opinions are you talking about, oil speculators?

I second that! Something has to be done for the well being of all. It really wasn't suprising, while watching the news yesterday, to see how many in congress have their money tied up in oil and don't want to give up their gains even if it means at the expense of the common people.

 

[Soverytired]

It probably won't help, but it certainly won't hurt.

If you're against something just because your company is for it, you (and your union) have some real problems.

 

[777_Jackpot]

NO! This whole industry is in crisis. When employees jobs are at risk it's managements responsibility to seek answers. Unfortunately airline management has not been proactive, it's nice to see DAL doing something. Whose personal opinions are you talking about, oil speculators?

Well, I would agree that the industry is in a crisis. That much we do agree on. However, what Anderson is doing is not "seeking" answers. He has voiced his opinion and is suggesting that his employees adopt the same opinion, despite the lack of ANY consensus of the true cause of high oil prices.

I don't fault him for having an opinion, but I do not feel that it is his place to make it Delta's official position, nor suggest that his employees make it their positions.

 

[777_Jackpot]

If you're against something just because your company is for it, you (and your union) have some real problems.

Please explain what that means.

 

[JumpersAway]

He isn't forcing people to sign the petition, he's merely making it available to grow a grass roots effort. I applaud his initiative.

ALPA is also taking charge of the matter. Several reps from Herndon have been beating the drums to draw attention to this. Hopefully this draws some attention to one of the three pieces of legislation that is being passed around the House and Senate.

 

[777_Jackpot]

He isn't forcing people to sign the petition, he's merely making it available to grow a grass roots effort. I applaud his initiative.

ALPA is also taking charge of the matter. Several reps from Herndon have been beating the drums to draw attention to this. Hopefully this draws some attention to one of the three pieces of legislation that is being passed around the House and Senate.

Well I guess that is pretty much par for the course. Use the old "I don't have a clue what is actually wrong, but I am going to do something" strategy. Excellent use of resources.

 

[MJ42]

Well I guess that is pretty much par for the course. Use the old "I don't have a clue what is actually wrong, but I am going to do something" strategy. Excellent use of resources.

Seems to me DAL and NWA management do understand what is going on...week dollar, oil speculators, turmoil in oil producing countries and not drilling at home. They're being proactive and asking for employees to help. If you don't agree with the letter then don't send it, but it is an attempt to get congress to listen to thousands of airline employees who agree with the letter and want action yesterday!

 

[JumpersAway]

Well I guess that is pretty much par for the course. Use the old "I don't have a clue what is actually wrong, but I am going to do something" strategy. Excellent use of resources.

When you say it's "par for the course", are you referring to a group of over paid politicians that barely work while collecting thousands in cash from special interest groups and lobbyists? All this while putting personal interests in front of patriotism and duty to the American tax payer?

 

[777_Jackpot]

Seems to me DAL and NWA management do understand what is going on...week dollar, oil speculators, turmoil in oil producing countries and not drilling at home. They're being proactive and asking for employees to help. If you don't agree with the letter then don't send it, but it is an attempt to get congress to listen to thousands of airline employees who agree with the letter and want action yesterday!

First, they have only raised concerns with market speculation. The very fact that Anderson believes this single variable is responsible for current prices is a evidence that he DOESN'T understand the situation. Second, would they be equally justified if they suggested to employees which presidential candidate to vote for if the candidate voiced similar ideas regarding speculation?

 

[MJ42]

First, they have only raised concerns with market speculation. The very fact that Anderson believes this single variable is responsible for current prices is a evidence that he DOESN'T understand the situation. Second, would they be equally justified if they suggested to employees which presidential candidate to vote for if the candidate voiced similar ideas regarding speculation?

President to vote for? A President does not have a DAILY impact on the operation of an airline like oil does. You still really haven't explained why you are so against a decision by an Airline leader to ask employees to support his effort to help an airline survive a difficult time during an industry crisis.

Single variable? I think RA is way smarter and better informed on this subject then you seem to want to admit. I listed 4 of the many factors, I'm sure I could list many other reasons as well as a few theories. I'm sure RA doesn't think a single variable caused the rapid rise in oil prices. Like I said, at least RA and Delta are making an attempt to be proactive both on an internal and external level. Why do you have a problem? If you don't agree, don't send the letter.

 

[777_Jackpot]

I'm sure RA doesn't think a single variable caused the rapid rise in oil prices. Like I said, at least RA and Delta are making an attempt to be proactive both on an internal and external level. Why do you have a problem? If you don't agree, don't send the letter.

Did you read the memo? "You and other Delta, Comair and Northwest Airlines employees have the chance to let your voices be heard about run-away speculation in the oil trading markets that is driving up prices" (the first line of his memo). What part of that sounds as if he believes there are multiple major factors driving the price of oil?

 

[AC560]

For every person speculating the price will go up, somebody has to speculate the price will go down.

What blaming the speculator is about is finding a victim it is the oldest form of politics. Something bad happens we need somebody to blame. Rally the people into believing that what really is their problem is something other then what it really is and the next thing you know, you own Austria. Villains are political gold.

Increase production, reduce demand, and strengthen the dollar and oil prices will go down.

 

[Freeze_gopher]

777,

It is oil speculation. The other variables don't begin to explain the current price of oil. I'll admit that this is surprising from management, but it's not a bad thing. The commodities futures modernization act has to be changed. The rules regarding energy futures contracts must be changed. A big voice like Delta's is a good start.