Dangerous pilot technique?

[Browntothebone]

This dude has his reversers deployed before he touches down! It looks dangerous and unsafe to me. What do you think?


http://www.airliners.net/photo/Sudan---Government/Ilyushin-Il-62M/1365180/L/

 

[pianoman]

That's how IL-62's land. He's not being a cowboy.

 

[Browntothebone]

That's how IL-62's land. He's not being a cowboy.

Why do they do that?

 

[ImbracableCrunk]

There are two other engines that are probably spooled up. Maybe it takes less time to stow the buckets than it does to spool engines from idle.

In Soviet Russia, you don't stow reversers - reversers stow you!

 

[pianoman]

I'm not sure why they do it. I have heard them fly overhead once or twice and the sound is pretty cool.

 

[brownie]

I flew tu-154 (tupelov) over seas for awhile and they have the same operation as IL airplanes. You can pull rvs's at 10 meter above ground and it works as spoilers on touch down, thats the only time you suppose to deploy it besides on the ground.

 

[CRJ's suck]

On the 737 at 10ft RA the reversers will partially deploy by unlocking the sync locks and moving the t/r sleeves a few inches aft. I think full deployment is tied in with the ground spoiler switch/cable when the left main touches down.

I'd still like to see a plane land with the t/r deployed though.

 

[BoilerUP]

The DC-8 allows for engine 2/3 TRs to be used in-flight, don't they?

 

[FreightGod]

The DC-8 allows for engine 2/3 TRs to be used in-flight, don't they?

Yeah, we did that on the -73s..Not sure about the other series.

 

[mushroom]

You could do it in the 60 series as well, but I was always terrified a bucket would go flying off. Makes a hellacious vibration too. If I remember correctly, the minimum speed with #2/#3 reversed was somewhere around 180 knots.

 

[PCL_128]

You could do it in the 60 series as well, but I was always terrified a bucket would go flying off. Makes a hellacious vibration too. If I remember correctly, the minimum speed with #2/#3 reversed was somewhere around 180 knots.

Scared the living crap out of me when I was sitting on a UPS jumpseat the first time. It was 4 in the morning and I was fast asleep on the jumpseat up on the flight deck. All of a sudden, the plane starts shaking like mad and the O2 masks falls on my head, waking me up. I thought a damned wing had fallen off, then I looked up and saw the two inboard reversers up. Definitely helped with the descent rate, though.

 

[d.fitz]

I have heard the C-17 does tactical descents with reversers??? Anyone know if that's true?

 

[redflyer65]

I'd rather have more directional control (with the nosewheel being on the ground) in a 2-engine plane before pulling both buckets, but that's just my 2 cents.

What if one doesn't deploy and the nose is still in the air?

 

[MrSky]

The DC-8 allows for engine 2/3 TRs to be used in-flight, don't they?

The DC-8 (all series) are approved for in-flight reverser use, but not below 190k (but can be used up to Vmo with no problems!!). And definitively not for landing. The Spoilers do a good enough job of hammering the plane solidly to the surface after touchdown....lol

 

[awacs94]

I have heard the C-17 does tactical descents with reversers??? Anyone know if that's true?

Proof on video:

http://www.flightlevel350.com/Aircr...III-Airline_Untitled_Aviation_Video-5025.html