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http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/080613/nef011.html?.v=59

U.S. Airline Industry Headed Toward 'Catastrophe' at Current Oil Prices
Friday June 13, 12:01 am ET
Several Airlines Likely to Fail; Affordable, Frequent Air Travel and Jobs at Risk
WASHINGTON and RADNOR, Pa., June 13 /PRNewswire/ -- At current oil prices, several large and small U.S. airlines will default on their obligations to creditors beginning at the end of 2008 and early 2009, according to a study issued today by AirlineForecasts, LLC and the Business Travel Coalition. The study shows that $130/barrel oil prices will increase yearly airline costs by $30 billion, while airlines will be able to generate only $4 billion in fare increases and incremental fees. The implication of this alarming trend is that several large and small airlines will ultimately end up in bankruptcy, and of those, some will be forced to liquidate.For a full copy of the study, go to http://tinyurl.com/6qhh99
"If oil prices stay anywhere near $130/barrel, all major legacy airlines will be in default on various debt covenants by the end of 2008 or early 2009," the study conducted by AirlineForecasts for BTC states. "U.S. commercial aviation is in full blown crisis and heading toward a catastrophe."
"Airlines are the primary source of inter-city transportation, critical to national and local economic development, the flow of human capital, movement of just-in-time parts for manufacturing, perishable food and other goods critical to our economy," the study says. "With airlines gravely threatened, so is our economic well-being."
Findings:
-- The top 10 U.S. airlines will spend almost $25 billion in higher fuel
costs this year over last year when jet fuel averaged $2.11 per gallon.
Fuel hedge benefits could offset $5 to $6 billion of the increased fuel
costs.
-- Earnings for the group, when one-time reorganization charges are
removed, were less than $4 billion in 2007, the only year of
profitability this decade. The group could lose as much as $9 billion
over the next 12 months if the current range of oil prices holds.
-- Industry fares will have to increase at least 20% -- across the board
and on average -- just to cover the dramatic gap-up in fuel costs from
2007. This is not possible given the level of uneconomic seat capacity
in the system today.
-- The upshot of higher fares is less traffic, and given a reasonable
estimate of price elasticity, the industry will eventually be forced to
shrink its seat capacity by 15% to 20%. However, there is no guarantee
that a transition to a smaller, more expensive (for the consumer)
airline industry would be successful and sustainable.
-- Airlines have the ability to raise some cash, and moreover, suppliers
such as aircraft manufacturers, leasing companies and travel management
companies will have an incentive to support large airlines that provide
a stream of value. Nevertheless, without a swift reduction in the price
of fuel, the industry is headed toward a massive failure that will
result in more bankruptcies, including liquidations.

"The U.S. airlines, and those who depend on them, are watching with growing alarm as their cash reserves fall precipitously toward zero as the price of oil, already at unsustainable levels, continuously spikes into uncharted territory," the study says. "These airlines have never faced a darker future."
"Brand name legacy carriers that we and American communities from coast to coast have depended upon for decades to provide us with affordable, frequent air service are running out of cash, and therefore, toward a date with bankruptcy and liquidation," the report warns.
"Airlines can attempt to radically shrink the industry," the study states. "But given the competitive situation they face, it's highly unlikely that they will have the ability to reduce capacity to levels that will allow all of them to survive. Instead, absent direct policy intervention, the likelihood is several airlines will fail."
"Stabilizing this ailing industry must become a national policy priority," the report states. "Many Members of Congress, federal regulatory officials, state legislators and Governors have yet to fully appreciate the devastating impact an oil-crippled airline industry will wreak on our culture and our national and local economies."
 
Either re-regulate completely or let the market forces do their thing. The last thing we need is more half solutions or post 9/11 style bail outs.
 
I wish every person in America who ever uses or has used a commercial airplane to get somewhere could read this article. All people hear about is American charging for bags and US air charging for drinks and fare prices going up.

Average Joe Q Consumer thinks they are entitled to pay no more than $250 to fly anywhere in America and that they are getting scamed by the airlines when they raise prices. Very few seem to realize that the airlines are on the absolute verge of annihilation if oil doesn't go down soon.

Somthings gotta give soon.....
 
Unfortunately......it's not going to be the oil!
 
What about some kind of federal tax relief on JetA? Although I'm not sure how much airline fuel is taxed.

Just a thought...








eP.
 
What about some kind of federal tax relief on JetA? Although I'm not sure how much airline fuel is taxed.

Just a thought...

eP.

Not bad, not bad. I'd rather see an end to all the money airlines have to charge to fund the TSA and airport security.

No other industry has to directly pay for it's defense from terrorist attacks.
 
If an airline goes bankrupt than it should liquidate. If its my company than so be it. A big problem that became everybody's problem is the fact that weak bankruptcy laws kept certain airlines going when they should be gone and done with in this god forsaken overcapacity market. There has to be losers and there has to be winners.
 
The last thing we ned is more federal subsidies. When the federal government starts paying our bills they start to try to control things that do not need controlling. Ideally, the federal government should step back, reduce taxes in all brackets, cut worthless spending, like the department of education and the IRS, and let the FREE market work things out on their own.
 
Here's my question, what overcapacity? Every flight I am on or operate is full. The legacy I provide customers to has an over 80% load factor. The notion that supply is too high is stupid. People are going to fly, people need to fly. Raise the fares and see what happens. Anyway oil will not sustain these levels and will fall, again supply and demand.
 
Stop selling seats on sold out flights! The practice of overselling has created the appearance of an unlimited supply. This is part of the problem.
 
I remember flying when i was a kid with my folks. It was rare we did because it was so expensive and considered a privilege. They would make me put on my airplane clothes, dad would wear a tie, etc. Just a different era. They were still going bankrupt every other year back then too so I guess not too much has changed
 
Here's my question, what overcapacity? Every flight I am on or operate is full. The legacy I provide customers to has an over 80% load factor. The notion that supply is too high is stupid. People are going to fly, people need to fly. Raise the fares and see what happens. Anyway oil will not sustain these levels and will fall, again supply and demand.

You are right, industry loads are at an all time high, but load factor doesn't make profits, YIELDS do. Flights are full becuase many tickets are still deeply discounted, so even though people are filling the chairs, not enough revenues are being produced by those passengers to sell tickets.

By reducing the number of flights, the airlines are shifting the supply curve to the left. Lower supply equals a more scarce resource. Scare resources in turn lead to a higher price for that commodity.

The real question for the airlines is, how far can they cut supply before the subsequent drop in demand (caused by higher prices) negates any benefit of a capacity reduction. That is the real question that has yet to be answered.
 
You are right, industry loads are at an all time high, but load factor doesn't make profits, YIELDS do. Flights are full because many tickets are still deeply discounted, so even though people are filling the chairs, not enough revenues are being produced by those passengers to sell tickets.

By reducing the number of flights, the airlines are shifting the supply curve to the left. Lower supply equals a more scarce resource. Scare resources in turn lead to a higher price for that commodity.

The real question for the airlines is, how far can they cut supply before the subsequent drop in demand (caused by higher prices) negates any benefit of a capacity reduction. That is the real question that has yet to be answered.


That's all fine and good if the airlines raise prices after they reduce supply, but they don't.

The airlines are are FULLY at fault for what's going on. If you owned a candy store and bought cases of canybars at a unit price of $1 each, you wouldn't turn around and sell them at $.75 each just to compete with other stores. Retailers have a term for this "Liquidation sale".

Airlines; reduce supply, raise prices to assure profits and if your competitor doesn't follow, don't worry because they won't be around for long.

Government; STOP BAILING OUT BAD BUSINESSES.

Investors; LEAVE THE AIRLINES ALONE, especially the credit card companies. They're doing more harm then good.
 
I wish every person in America who ever uses or has used a commercial airplane to get somewhere could read this article. All people hear about is American charging for bags and US air charging for drinks and fare prices going up.

Average Joe Q Consumer thinks they are entitled to pay no more than $250 to fly anywhere in America and that they are getting scamed by the airlines when they raise prices. Very few seem to realize that the airlines are on the absolute verge of annihilation if oil doesn't go down soon.

Somthings gotta give soon.....


no, what we actually see is bad service that would not be tolerated on any level in any other industry.
 
Riddle me this. "Analysts" keep saying that oil prices will only keep going up. OK, I get that. But if airlines start folding (and therefore not using fuel), then the demand will decrease, correct? And in an alleged "market economy" what's supposed to happen to the price if the demand decreases? Let me remind you what happened to the price of gas after not a single airliner took to the skies between 9/11/01 and 9/15/01.
 

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