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Draginass

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Oil: $150-160
Dollar: Up sightly
Inflation: 7% and rising
Housing Market: relatively stable at low levels
President: Obama, by a comfortable margin
War: Status Quo
Airlines:
Furloughs: AA, UAUA, NWA/DAL
Failures: United, Frontier, Sun Country
Impending Failures: UAUA, AA
Capacity Cutbacks: 20%
Leisure Market: Down dramatically
Mergers: NWA-DAL but going very badly
 
Dragin--Haven't you heard? No furloughs at DAL/NWA. Get with the program... :rolleyes: TC

P.S.--When you say UAUA, do you mean USAir? You have United listed as "failed" and "impending failure".
 
I would remove Sun Country from your list. With our military business increasing, we're not going anywhere...
 
I had my predictions written until I got to war.

Iran and Israel are too unstable to predict. Obama might not be the best choice in those waters, but hot head McCain sure isn't. Wonder if Colin Powell will return to public service?
 
I predict us airline executives will make off with tens of millions by the end of the year.

I would like to personally thank the employees of all the airlines for giving, again and again, at the office to support our cause.

Whatever you do, don't stand up for yourselves. Just keep showing up for work and keep taking those paycuts.

Happy New Year!

Frank
 
Draginass said:
Oil: $150-160
Dollar: Up sightly
Inflation: 7% and rising
Housing Market: relatively stable at low levels
President: Obama, by a comfortable margin
War: Status Quo
Airlines:
Furloughs: AA, UAUA, NWA/DAL
Failures: United, Frontier, Sun Country
Impending Failures: UAUA, AA
Capacity Cutbacks: 20%
Leisure Market: Down dramatically
Mergers: NWA-DAL but going very badly
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Hey! let me try!

Oil: Exce$$ive X 10
Dollar: Euro X -10
Inflation: 4%
Housing Market: Below glidepath, correcting...
President: Bush, until January 20, 2009 (I read that in the Constitution)
War: Status Quo
Airlines:
Furloughs: American, United, Airways, Continental,
Failures: A few
Impending Failures: see above
Capacity Cutbacks: 12% Domestic. Increases International for a few.
Leisure Market: Down slightly.
Mergers: NWA-DAL
Sports:
Baseball: Twins win World Series.
Basketball: Celtics
Football: Colts win. Vikings spend another Christmas at home...(sigh).
Hockey: Another non-Canadian team packed with Russians.
Lacrosse: Ha! Ha! Who cares?
NCAA Football: Notre Dame loses 8. Ohio State loses 1...the Championship. (Minnesota loses all 6 I attend)
NCAA Basketball: The Bobby Knight coached Embry-Riddle Nimrods defeat Duke (3OT)
Soccer: Still unwatched...
Golf: Tiger wins British and PGA. (US Open won by a "nobody" using only a 7-iron and a weed-whacker)
NASCAR: Points champion determined by a fistfight on November 16th at the Homestead-Miami Speedway.
 
deep, deep furloughs for everybody but SWA and Alaska.

Frontier Gone,
Virgin, Gone
Spirit, Gone

US Air BK most likely to liquidate.
United BK
American BK
Delta/NWA Hanging on by a toe nail
Continental...? who knows.

It all depends on who goes into the history books first. That will take the pressure off the others.
 
Furloughs: US Air, CAL, AMR, DAL/NWA,

Failures: Frontier, Sun Country

Near Failures and likely to by the end of 2009: UAL, Jeltblue, Critter
 
You forgot to mention we will be a socialist state. Probobly a slight oversight on your part, no biggie.
 
Draginass said:
Oil: $150-160
Dollar: Up sightly
Inflation: 7% and rising
Housing Market: relatively stable at low levels
President: Obama, by a comfortable margin
War: Status Quo
Airlines:
Furloughs: AA, UAUA, NWA/DAL
Failures: United, Frontier, Sun Country
Impending Failures: UAUA, AA
Capacity Cutbacks: 20%
Leisure Market: Down dramatically
Mergers: NWA-DAL but going very badly
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Just take a gun, suck on the barrel, pull the trigger.
:rolleyes:

Have a nice day, I am going to the beach.
:cool:
 
Frank Lorenzo said:
I predict us airline executives will make off with tens of millions by the end of the year.

I would like to personally thank the employees of all the airlines for giving, again and again, at the office to support our cause.

Whatever you do, don't stand up for yourselves. Just keep showing up for work and keep taking those paycuts.

Happy New Year!

Frank
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Wouldn't it be funny if Frank Lorenzo was really Frank Lorenzo.
 
I predict us airline executives will make off with tens of millions by the end of the year.

I would like to personally thank the employees of all the airlines for giving, again and again, at the office to support our cause.

Whatever you do, don't stand up for yourselves. Just keep showing up for work and keep taking those paycuts.

Happy New Year!

Frank
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Frank Lorenzo wins flightinfo for the most true fact that has ever been typed on these glowing screens.
 
Occam's Razor said:
Hey! let me try!
Soccer: Still unwatched...
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Man, ain't that the truth. Wow, watch guys run back and forth on a big field for 90 minutes for a 1-0 score...whoo hoo! Let the good times roll!

Fortunately, European games have fights in the stands fairly frequently to distract from the boredom on the field. If all I had was a choice between soccer or cricket, I'd probably want to wail on my neighbor too.

And they say American sports are violent...:rolleyes:

Nu
 
NuGuy said:
Man, ain't that the truth. Wow, watch guys run back and forth on a big field for 90 minutes for a 1-0 score...whoo hoo! Let the good times roll!

Fortunately, European games have fights in the stands fairly frequently to distract from the boredom on the field. If all I had was a choice between soccer or cricket, I'd probably want to wail on my neighbor too.

And they say American sports are violent...:rolleyes:

Nu
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Let see..... Soccer to you might be boring, but its still watched by the whole WORLD.....yes... even people here in the US. As boring as it may be, its still the biggest....eeerrr....one of the biggest sports out there.....

Now back to the 2008 thread.....
 
Networ-King said:
Let see..... Soccer to you might be boring, but its still watched by the whole WORLD......
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Which tells you all that you need to know about the rest of the world.

Nu

PS What would be seen as a road hazard in the US, in the third world, is probably the road -- P.J. O'Rourke, Holidays in Hell
 
Draginass said:
Oil: $150-160
Dollar: Up sightly
Inflation: 7% and rising
Housing Market: relatively stable at low levels
President: Obama, by a comfortable margin
War: Status Quo
Airlines:
Furloughs: AA, UAUA, NWA/DAL
Failures: United, Frontier, Sun Country
Impending Failures: UAUA, AA
Capacity Cutbacks: 20%
Leisure Market: Down dramatically
Mergers: NWA-DAL but going very badly
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Thank you for your negative input on life. Your predictions...most have already been announced in the news...did you figure this out all on your own?
 
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~~~^~~~ said:
I had my predictions written until I got to war.

Iran and Israel are too unstable to predict. Obama might not be the best choice in those waters, but hot head McCain sure isn't. Wonder if Colin Powell will return to public service?
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McCain is the only choice. Obama is clueless.
 
NuGuy said:
Which tells you all that you need to know about the rest of the world.

Nu

PS What would be seen as a road hazard in the US, in the third world, is probably the road -- P.J. O'Rourke, Holidays in Hell
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And your post tell me alot about you and the way you think. Not everybody has to like the same stuff or do the same things or live the same way. But in your eyes the WHOLE world is wrong, because you find soccer boring. Unfreakinreal.......

sorry for the thread hijack people..... this thread is twisted anyways..... oh well.... back to the death of all airlines......
 
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Yup, baseball is REALLY exciting! 3 hours for about 10 minutes of action. And I played it for 20 years. I sure as heck can't watch it much.....

BUT,

It beats the daylights out of watching soccer...er...futbol. Now rugby on the other hand...
 
Seriously?

The key to the fate of the legacy airlines will be how much leverage the manufacturers (Boeing, EADS, GE, P&W, Rolls, etc) can exert upon the banks and lenders to risk mondo scratch-o on the companies that buy most of their stuff.

Furloughs are inevitable, only because there isn't enough pricing power available as long as the revenue side of the industry is being held hostage by the dumbest CEO. (it's a rotating position!) So, as money gets more and more scarce, they'll cut costs [Hint: We are a "cost"].

The legacies will be trying to outrun each other instead of the bear.
 
inline said:
McCain is the only choice. Obama is clueless.
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McCain supports relaxation of cabotage laws, Obama doesn't. McCain doesn't support the right of airline pilots to strike, Obama does. As an airline pilot I think it would be stupid to support McCain, so I won't.

My prediction for 2008, I still won't have my PGA card.
 

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