FLOPS Management, You Will Be Sued AND Lose

[jetwash]

Slowjet,


You will be coming back.
Management wants a contract ASAP and this is just a form of desperation for us to accept less then NJ, Flex, CS,XO, Avantair etc......

There will be no contract unless you are all brought back.
Hold on and have faith.

 

[birddogg01]

Awesome post Chingaso!!!

 

[GerryG]

Keep quite? "re-adjusting" the headcount within a company is a business decision and not purposely meant to harm people but does happen a lot.

Why don't you shut, your, hole, you fu**ing management f**k. I've got a head count for you to "re-adjust". You have obviously never lost a brother, you have never been through this so shut your lie-hole. Fu**ing s**t for brains. "Business"? Your about to see the "business" end of the Teamsters, you a$$ kissing, Koolaid drinking, ankle-biting, windbag.

Yea go ahead and moderate me, I'm beyond caring.

 

[waka]

This is not good at all, first Management screws you, and now you're going to start fighting each other.

Very, very dangerous working environment at FLOPS.

What are you talking about? I didn't say jack about the pilots fighting each other. If anything, they should stick together. Now, when it comes to pilots doing OT and flying broken airplanes, d@mn right it's time to fight. It certainly isn't a time to get together and sing Kum-by-yah.

 

[netjetwife]

Great post, Chingaso!

... I was using the metaphor to describe a group of people that do damage to families, and do this damage intentionally, such as the likes of Michael Sheeringa, Sanjay, Tyler, et al. And you can bet their families have not suffered one bit during this time ... Sheeringa sends an email that, with a keystroke, causes damage to pilots and their spouses and children. ... Sheeringa increased medical insurance benefits by 300% for some families. I remember when that happened and I've thought of it again, too. ... Many, many families lost medical benefits they were previously entitled to because it made Sanjays metrics look good to the Board of Directors ...
Sheeringa decided to change the payroll schedule, because it made the quarterly reports look better to the Board of Directors. The result, however, took food off people's tables. Not that the FLOPS cared... Oh yeah, pilots at Flight Options are prohibited from doing contract flying on the side. We were forced to sign a lot of documents promising we wouldn't try to augment our dwindling monthly net income.... The FLOPS were afraid you'd make more money on the side and dump them for refusing to pay pilots a professional wage.
Michael Sheeringa ... knew what he was doing was hurting wives and children; he's done it before. Why else, if he is so innocently just trying to get some business done, did he feel he needed to hire a security guard to escort him to the parking lot each night after work? Slinking away from the scene of his crimes? Sure sounds like it!

These people hurt wives and children. There is no defense for that, and if we begin to throw our hands in the air and be resigned to attitudes like "oh well, thats just business, too bad" then we've lost integrity. Agreed. Because the FLOPS essentially declared war on the pilots and they didn't care that families were going to get hurt in the process. The Sheeringa Gang could have chosen to follow the successful NJA example and make partners of the pilots by giving them a fair contract but instead they tried to break their will. Thugs do go after families to inflict as much pain as possible, don't they? He who allows bad things to happen without doing something to stop it is just as responsible as the person doing the bad things in the first place. To toss it off as "its not personal, its just business" is either naive, indifferent and shortsighted, or definitely irresponsible. Well said! By now every Options pilot should be ready to admit (even those who've had blinders on) that everything that has happened was done so maliciously and personally--under the direction of F&H, the infamous union-busting firm. There's part of your payraise right there!

Chingaso, thanks for an excellent recap, great post! I began posting here as an angry wife sick of seeing her husband's skill being exploited and her family being short-changed and made to suffer for corporate greed. I remember how much it meant to me to read posts by board members who understood. I know from that experience (and Options families have it even worse!) that your post has provided a lot of support when it is badly needed. Bravo! NJW

 

[birddogg01]

Skanza, I have a hard time believing that you're not FLOPs management or up their azz. You state that you don't express hate towards management just because they're management. I only express hate towards FLOPs management (Michael Sheeringa, Baboo Sanja, and Bob Tyler) because they are scum and and the lowest form of life. If you support or defend them then you are scum too.

 

[dime line]

Skanza, I have a hard time believing that you're not FLOPs management or up their azz. You state that you don't express hate towards management just because they're management. I only express hate towards FLOPs management (Michael Sheeringa, Baboo Sanja, and Bob Tyler) because they are scum and and the lowest form of life. If you support or defend them then you are scum too.

Lets not forget, Bob Reinholt and Bill Bildger, these two are the Program Managers and their hands are not clean in this mess

 

[skanza]

Why don't you shut, your, hole, you fu**ing management f**k. I've got a head count for you to "re-adjust". You have obviously never lost a brother, you have never been through this so shut your lie-hole. Fu**ing s**t for brains. "Business"? Your about to see the "business" end of the Teamsters, you a$$ kissing, Koolaid drinking, ankle-biting, windbag.

Yea go ahead and moderate me, I'm beyond caring.

Lost a brother? Did anyone get killed in this situation? Oh well, I can see that you are not able to be rational given the rant you just went on.
Once again, I'm just tring to be objective here. If you were in charge and had too much overhead, what would you do? Give everybody a raise? Spend a lot of capital immediately?... I thought so.
Remember, this is not a charity to employ people, its a business.
Sure you all think I'm management because I don't share your opinions, but that just helps me hide like no one else here is able to.
Fish on!

 

[skanza]

Skanza, I have a hard time believing that you're not FLOPs management or up their azz. You state that you don't express hate towards management just because they're management. I only express hate towards FLOPs management (Michael Sheeringa, Baboo Sanja, and Bob Tyler) because they are scum and and the lowest form of life. If you support or defend them then you are scum too.

Thanks for hating me too. You are more than welcome to hate mgmt for your own reasons, just don't belittle my reason for not hating them. I just don't happen to agree with the union's anti-management mentality that's based soley on the fact that they're management, the must be against us.
I now can classify you with the other "calling people names on the internet" people. This is becoming boring...

 

[1po'dpilot]

Oh scumza you dont get it and never have. When the company files for bankruptcy you'll be left in the unemployment lines with everyone else. You really must live by your motto... "Life is more difficult when you're stupid." That certainly applies to you. For those that havent seen scumza's websites here they are again for your viewing pleasure.

http://skanza.deviantart.com/
or maybe this is you? hmmm? :laugh:

http://www.myspace.com/skanza

Good stuff lol... enjoy!
The myspace page you have is especially entertaining!

 

[J.Otto]

11-17-06

Why would you do this to your own company? Find another place to work if its that bad and don't ruin it for those who like working for the company. Now, I may sound like a "Company Man sipping the KoolAide" but this is my career and value it. I don't want it spoiled by a few bad apples.
(With all respect to the pilots who enjoy flying and are dedicated.)

Not management? Yeeeeeah right buddy. Wasn't this your very first post?

 

[J.Otto]

mofo.... you speak like a management tool.

 

[skanza]

Ummm..what?

I think its fine for these young lads to spike the hair. Doesnt bother me one bit. In fact, they help pull in younger girls for a dirty old man like me.

^^Wasn't this your first post?^^
Anyways, what is your point?

I can tell you I'm not management but you'll keep on thinking that. Which helps me conceal my ident as all of you so poorly do.

And, once again, all that I'm doing is presenting a different view of what's going on and since it's not aligned with the bully-union mentality, I get attacked. Typical.

 

[Galaxy]

Lost a brother? Did anyone get killed in this situation? Oh well, I can see that you are not able to be rational given the rant you just went on.
Once again, I'm just tring to be objective here. If you were in charge and had too much overhead, what would you do? Give everybody a raise? Spend a lot of capital immediately?... I thought so.
Remember, this is not a charity to employ people, its a business.
Sure you all think I'm management because I don't share your opinions, but that just helps me hide like no one else here is able to.
Fish on!

I hope your F&H paychecks clear every time. You suck at your job as a FUD slinger. I hope F&H got the money up front for this because FLOPS has a long history of not paying it's bills.

 

[skanza]

kisses

Oh scumza you dont get it and never have. When the company files for bankruptcy you'll be left in the unemployment lines with everyone else. You really must live by your motto... "Life is more difficult when you're stupid." That certainly applies to you. For those that havent seen scumza's websites here they are again for your viewing pleasure.

http://skanza.deviantart.com/
or maybe this is you? hmmm? :laugh:

http://www.myspace.com/skanza

Good stuff lol... enjoy!
The myspace page you have is especially entertaining!

Nice use of Google, fool. I will say that I am both of those people and niether of them. I have also updated my sig. And, thank you for wasting your time on me, 'mam. xoxo