A new way for ALPA to collect dues

[JohnDoe]

And what good is it doing you to know about it? Are you going to do anything about it? Are you going to bring a resolution to your next Local Council meeting? Have you called your status rep? Have you sent an email to Prater? Or are you going to do the traditional flightinfo anti-ALPA thing: sit on your ass and do nothing while continuing to whine. If this passes, it will be because the membership did nothing about it. Take responsibility for your own profession and your own union and stop pointing fingers at Herndon.

How the heck do you know what I have or have not done?

How absolutely hypocritical that somebody that bought and paid for their own job and training at gulfstream is telling anyone to "take responsibility for your own profession." Take a look in the mirror.

Don't worry PFT boy. I have already talked to a rep about it.

 

[j41driver]

Contributions to IRA's don't lower your W-2 earnings since they are made with after tax dollars.

True but it would keep more of your money from ALPA under their new dues scam. Under the current way of doing things it would be a loser for sure.

 

[Rez O. Lewshun]

It still pisses me off that Prater, and all other Pres', make the money they make while they have no problem with newhires making what they make. I believe unionism means protecting all, not just some.

The other Pres' make the money that they would make at thier airlines plus cost of living expenses...

If you want to talk about the issues... get informed.

Only the President makes a larger salary...

The President's salary is determined at the BOD. One is coming this fall. Wanna do something about it...


How is ALPA democracy any different that our own American gov't...??

 

[Rez O. Lewshun]

Oy, vey. The levels of self sanctimony with these ALPO cheerleaders is nauseating.

They way the members whine and cry and claim victim status for themsleves all while never voting and creating grassroots movements is pathetic and embarassing...

It is disgusting that they call themselves Americans

At my previous ALPO airline when most individuals attempted to volunteer they were turned down or steered into non-voting positions. As "outsiders" they were less controllable and thus a threat to those in power.

One of the problems with unions and ALPA. ALPA doesn't teach its elected reps to be leaders. I'd like to see it changed... do you?

Your pathetic and predicable responses have been repeated so often, it is if a recording is being played, Rez and PFT_128.

Will you vote?

 

[captain dad]

NATIONAL SENIORITY LIST

Until then, just sad.

 

[Rez O. Lewshun]

NATIONAL SENIORITY LIST

Until then, just sad.

NSL is unworkable. Wishing for it is futile.....

 

[JoeMerchant]

The ALPA cheerleaders are working overtime.....Give them a raise Herndon and take it out of my paycheck.....

:laugh:

 

[pkober]

The other Pres' make the money that they would make at thier airlines plus cost of living expenses...

If you want to talk about the issues... get informed.

Only the President makes a larger salary...

The President's salary is determined at the BOD. One is coming this fall. Wanna do something about it...


How is ALPA democracy any different that our own American gov't...??

I was talking about past Presidents. I'm aware of the other officers pay. Read my post more closely before commenting.

ALPA has only one President the rest are Vice Presidents. Think before you spout off. Get informed.

 

[pkober]

Why do you think Prater is ok with what newhires make? He isn't. He wants their pay to go up. But there's not much he can do about it if the pansy line pilots keep voting for crappy contracts. Prater merely signs what you send him.



You can file whatever you want. Getting a judge to hear a case that has no merit is something else entirely.

I'm not filing a lawsuit, never said I was. Read my post.

A strong national union would demand a minimum starting wage at all it's airlines. If we were a unified group we could demand that. Prater doesn't give a rats a$$ about newhire pay. He's not one. But he is the leader of this union and therefore sets the tone of our agenda.

I agree with you that each airline pilot group still approve crappy contracts for newhires. Only we can change it and believe me I will vote no on ours if it doesn't improve the life of our newhires.

56% of the members polled didn't want the age 65 law to pass. That's from ALPA's July 2005 survey. They didn't poll 5000 furloughees because they figured they would be against it anyway. Prater choose to ingore it. Did you vote? I hope so. If not please get involved. I voted.

 

[CopilotDoug]

Why do you think Prater is ok with what newhires make? He isn't. He wants their pay to go up. But there's not much he can do about it if the pansy line pilots keep voting for crappy contracts. Prater merely signs what you send him.

Tell him, brother!!! And how do you expect pay at the regionals to go UP when you still have pilots paying for a job...oh, sorry.

 

[PCL_128]

Prater doesn't give a rats a$$ about newhire pay. He's not one. But he is the leader of this union and therefore sets the tone of our agenda.

You obviously don't know Prater. As everyone here knows, I'm not a fan of the guy, and I supported Captain Woerth 110%, but I know that John cares about newhire pay and wants to see it raised a great deal. He's not a one-man army, though.

56% of the members polled didn't want the age 65 law to pass. That's from ALPA's July 2005 survey. They didn't poll 5000 furloughees because they figured they would be against it anyway. Prater choose to ingore it.

The 2005 survey? Old news. Prater ran multiple new surveys after being elected. In none of the surveys (including the 2005 Woerth survey) did over 50% of the pilot bother to participate.

Did you vote? I hope so. If not please get involved. I voted.

Are you kidding me? I voted in every single poll and election for the entire time I was a member. Hell, I told Prater to his face over a year ago that I thought he was handling Age 60 very poorly.

 

[Tweaker]

Why do you think Prater is ok with what newhires make? He isn't. He wants their pay to go up. But there's not much he can do about it if the pansy line pilots keep voting for crappy contracts. Prater merely signs what you send him. MASSIVE JUSTIFICATION HERE

YES! More of the same. Denigrate the membership. You are King Sheeot Hypocrite, PFT_128. Backdoor Bob, donating (WITH DADDY'S DOLLAS) to your own entrance to the hallowed career. Direct depositing in your PCL management's coffers so you may become a big-boy pilot. Did you send a picture to your mommy in your polyester, Chinese made uniform? I bet you were just precious!

Don't respond to this call out. Others will laugh, and I will continue.

They way the members whine and cry and claim victim status for themsleves (SIC-spelling incorrect) all while never voting and creating grassroots movements is pathetic and embarassing...

It is disgusting that they call themselves Americans

Will you vote?

Actually, I have personally, NEVER missed a vote or a hotline update in my Part 121 airline career. But I never SERVED/ate at the ALPO trough. So who the funk am I right? Rought! Peons do not deserve to share opinions, eh?

Additionally, I personally initiated a "grassroots" (I hate to use this liberal word) effort to reform ALPO. The response from both my co-conspirator as well as my pilot group was exceedingly limp. The trajectory was a continuation of the flight path to pay cuts, fleet shrinkage, career stagnation and loss of morale.

In summation, you are right, I am a disgusting American. You are souless puke, Rez.

 

[Tweaker]

You obviously don't know Prater. As everyone here knows, I'm not a fan of the guy, and I supported Captain Woerth 110%,

(This makes you sound like O.J. Simpson... 1000% innocent. So you gave him your son, yet to be born or what?)
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but I know that John cares about newhire pay and wants to see it raised a great deal. He's not a one-man army, though.



The 2005 survey? Old news. Prater ran multiple new surveys after being elected. In none of the surveys (including the 2005 Woerth survey) did over 50% of the pilot bother to participate.
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Perfect! Thank you for making my case, clonebot! We (the dues paying membership) don't participate so we don't count. We are ignored and our vote results are ignored, overruled and steamrolled in favor of ALPO national interests, so, as logic dictacates, we don't participate, so we are bad ALPO members so we shouldn't talk, so we don't deserve such stellar leadership such as Rez and PFT_128! I got it! Whew, hard work following the faggoty false logic of these automotons! Time for beer 5. Psssffftt!

 

[PCL_128]

About 5% of that was coherent. Lay off the alcohol and try again, Bocephus.

 

[Tweaker]

For the record, beer is 5% alcohol, so that is just right.

Secondly, thank you for finally responding to me, you man-child.

Thirdly, do you have any cogent responses to any of the challenges to your ignorant comments that I or others have placed in your self-rightious lap?

Having consumed beer, I am no less clear, and the truth is still near.

P.S. Are you the back door beeotch who complained about my avatar being too risque? I dare not offend your sensibilities.