Delta International Jumpseat Question

[Flybywire44]

Ok I'm afraid some flight attendant misinformation has me paranoid... I just jumped overseas in the CABIN and listed at the gate for the CABIN 60 minutes before departure.

I was told by an FA that coming back from a place like NRT requires you to list a day in advance. I know this is true at any airline for COCKPIT jumpseating, But does a pilot need to reserve the jumpseat in advance coming back from overseas if he's only requesting the CABIN? Is anyone familiar with this process?

Thx.

 

[~~~^~~~]

I've not heard a day before.

What the FA is probably talking about is "meal listing" so they have catering for you. Some airlines require that on long flights. For example Philippine Airlines (where the employee's non rev benefits suck due to travel restrictions) can be harsh.

I've not heard a similar requirement on Delta. But, in your shoes a ID90, or ID96, would still probably be a smarter move than Jumpseating on a load limited flight (you do not know when the LR version might or might not be flying that route).

I buy ID90/96 on JAL, NWA and PAL, then just get the ones I do not use refunded after the trip. JAL is better to off line non revs than anyone else IMHO.

 

[Flybywire44]

Thank you for the info.

Loads are good with over 100 open seats on Monday and Tuesday going back to the US. I think Aero Mexico's new service to NRT is hurting DAL's South American to Japan connections. =/

 

[Cpt Oveur]

but thats good for non revs

 

[Shocker]

100 seats is good, but what matters is how many there are in first, that's a long flight.

 

[TSA145]

As I understand it you need to list 24 hrs before the flight inbound to the US. This is a......(drum roll)...TSA requirement. It's required for all flights regardless of the airline.
Hope it helps

 

[Flybywire44]

As I understand it you need to list 24 hrs before the flight inbound to the US. This is a......(drum roll)...TSA requirement. It's required for all flights regardless of the airline.
Hope it helps

Yeah... But I think/hope thats just for the cockpit. They let me list last minute in the states for a cabin jumpseat b4 I went overseas.

 

[Shocker]

Last time I jumpseated back from Europe (on UA), I was listed in the back, just in case, but I just went up to the counter and got the pass. Make sure you pay your departure taxes though!

 

[Max Powers]

How can you list - if you are Off airline trying to jumpseat international?

Do you pay the taxes coming back?

 

[b82rez]

No listing on Delta VCE to JFK, that was about 6 months ago.

US Air wanted a listing 24 hours in advance.

 

[sfomarc]

Have i missed something? After 911 there is no cockpit jumpseat (actually ridding in cp)

 

[bigsky]

It "seems" to be how the airline classifies jumpseaters.
If they list you as a passenger I believe they can get by with either 60 or 90 minutes. However I think if they classify you as an ACM or crew then I think the 24 hour rule applies. I know I have jumped on both Delta and Continental several times showing up standard 2 hours prior ....My last time from Panama I didnt get on Delta and walked to the Continental gate 30 minutes prior to departure and they helped me get on.

 

[islandhoper]

Guys, I've jumpseated around the world on Delta several times.
The TSA requires only a listing 75mins prior to the scheduled flight. The problem is that on outstations they usually don't remember how to do jumpseaters, so it takes a long time... plan on being there at least 3 hours prior. Pay the taxes and that's it. The latest change, is that DELTA will not list any jumpseaters for the return anymore... The outstations have not been informed of this apparently and keep telling you that it should've been done. Politely explain That change and have them call ops if necessary.
The crews have always been good to me. But beware, DELTA cannot override the 75 min thing. It is part of the computer protocol. Continental does it manually, so they don't seem to enforce it...

my 2cents

 

[Flybywire44]

I listed for the CABIN jumpseat 2.5 hours prior to departure and was told that the initial listing must be in economy and to be at the gate one hour before departure. The agents introduced me to the CoCaptain's at 58 min prior and then placed me in first per Captain's request. This flight crew, pilots and flight attendants both, was the nicest Delta crew I've ever met!

Moral of the story, for CABIN jumpseat you need not have a 24 reservation, but unless your mainline its initially economy only. The NRT JAL ticket/gate agents will literally look for ways to keep you off the plane. Bring a friend who speaks fluent Japanese to interpret how the agents try to keep you off a wide open plane... It could really come in handy. I was completely shocked by some of the things they were saying. I'm still trying to figure out how they used one of my transoceanic S3c's on a CABIN jumpseat! =(

Oh and the young "speakers" on some of these flights are amazing... 23 year olds on a senior pairing?

Hope this helps.

 

[Flybywire44]

Hey I justed wanted to let everyone know that after I jumpseat in the cabin to and from NRT they used two of my Trans Oceanic Passes. Has this happened to anyone before? WTHeck? How can they do that on a jumpseat listing.

Thank you for your email to the Delta Travel Center.

I have viewed your travel profile and show that you were decremented Transoceanic flight days because you are showing non-revenue pleasure travel, and not jumpseat travel. Here is the contact information that I have for ASA: *********

Regards,

Sandi
Travel CSR
Delta Travel Center

 

[General Lee]

Thank you for the info.

Loads are good with over 100 open seats on Monday and Tuesday going back to the US. I think Aero Mexico's new service to NRT is hurting DAL's South American to Japan connections. =/

You mean the one that requires a stop in Tijiuana? That's right, it doesn't go nonstop from Mexico City, rather an additional stop in beautiful Tijiuana. Yeah, that seems more appealling to a lot of people. Ever been in the MEX City airport itself? Wonderful......


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[Flybywire44]

You mean the one that requires a stop in Tijiuana? That's right, it doesn't go nonstop from Mexico City, rather an additional stop in beautiful Tijiuana. Yeah, that seems more appealling to a lot of people. Ever been in the MEX City airport itself? Wonderful......


Bye Bye--General Lee

You mean Tijuana? :beer:

Correct me in your cynicism if I'm wrong, but Mexican customs is much easier on South American fliers than the US. I have the understanding that it is easier for someone from Brazil, Venezuela or Columbia to fly to Tijiana (which would be one way) or Mexica City and catch a flight to Narita. Latin romantic speakers prefer to fly a Latin tonged airline where everyone speaks something familiar. Not every Delta flight has a Portuguese or Spanish speaker, if any at all. I was really only speculating about Delta's Latin market share to NRT.

NRT receives a great deal of South Americans who work in Japan to support their families back home. Their desire to work in Japan mirrors how droves of Japanese left for South America to support their families in Japan after WW2.

Seriously? I don't believe I ever mentioned anything about Mexico City, but I honestly doubt most connecting pax are more focused making their connections than touring their connecting city.

Aeromexico is offering some limited competition that I am not happy to see and I hope it has a minimal affect on Delta. I think the fact that Delta offers Daily service while Aeromexico does not boasts well for Delta...

 

[General Lee]

You mean Tijuana? :beer:

Correct me in your cynicism if I'm wrong, but Mexican customs is much easier on South American fliers than the US. I have the understanding that it is easier for someone from Brazil, Venezuela or Columbia to fly to Tijiana (which would be one way) or Mexica City and catch a flight to Narita. Latin romantic speakers prefer to fly a Latin tonged airline where everyone speaks something familiar. Not every Delta flight has a Portuguese or Spanish speaker, if any at all. I was really only speculating about Delta's Latin market share to NRT.

NRT receives a great deal of South Americans who work in Japan to support their families back home. Their desire to work in Japan mirrors how droves of Japanese left for South America to support their families in Japan after WW2.

Seriously? I don't believe I ever mentioned anything about Mexico City, but I honestly doubt most connecting pax are more focused making their connections than touring their connecting city.

Aeromexico is offering some limited competition that I am not happy to see and I hope it has a minimal affect on Delta. I think the fact that Delta offers Daily service while Aeromexico does not boasts well for Delta...

You stated that you thought Aeromexico could be hurting Delta's Japan to South America connections and I beg to differ. There are NO connections to South America from Tijuana, and any pax on Aeromexico have to stop there first, then continue onto Mexico City, and then onto South America. That seems like more of a hassle to me, and probably most Japanese people who have to buy those expensive tickets. With the weaker dollar, I bet they would rather fly to ATL, DFW, or IAH from NRT and then Southbound to S. America. But, I bet Aeromexico gets a large portion of the Japan to Mexico traffic, thanks to their only real competition being JAL, with their own stop in Vancouver first. (2 flights a week just like Aeromexico)


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[johnsonrod]

You stated that you thought Aeromexico could be hurting Delta's Japan to South America connections and I beg to differ. There are NO connections to South America from Tijuana, and any pax on Aeromexico have to stop there first, then continue onto Mexico City, and then onto South America. That seems like more of a hassle to me, and probably most Japanese people who have to buy those expensive tickets. With the weaker dollar, I bet they would rather fly to ATL, DFW, or IAH from NRT and then Southbound to S. America. But, I bet Aeromexico gets a large portion of the Japan to Mexico traffic, thanks to their only real competition being JAL, with their own stop in Vancouver first. (2 flights a week just like Aeromexico)


Bye Bye--General Lee

Does the stop in Tijuana include a donkey show during the layover? I'd probably consider it myself after a 12 hour flight from Asia...

 

[General Lee]

Does the stop in Tijuana include a donkey show during the layover? I'd probably consider it myself after a 12 hour flight from Asia...

I don't know, maybe it is a part of the inflight menu? Could be......tasty?


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[SSDD]

How dare you insinuate that some third world airline could affect the mighty Delta? Isn't obvious that those latin passengers would rather be flown by the General to Atlanta rather than to fly with a latin crew?

Jeez General, not everything is an insult to your manhood!

 

[General Lee]

How dare you insinuate that some third world airline could affect the mighty Delta? Isn't obvious that those latin passengers would rather be flown by the General to Atlanta rather than to fly with a latin crew?

Jeez General, not everything is an insult to your manhood!

You're darn right those people would LOVE to fly with me. And, my AUTOLANDS are the best out there. Smooth as silk baby!!!

Adios Adios----General Lee