Choosing Wisely

[FoxyWhiskey]

My sister has two interviews next week, one with American Eagle & the other with a reputable Cargo feeder.

Both are good opportunities for her, and both will require either a commute or a move to base.

Just so she knows there are other opinions out there, feel free to give opinions/suggestions on which one you think is best given the industry and where you see it's headed.

I can take a few jokes, but I'm really looking for honest & thoughtful answers....

Thanks!

-FW

 

[belchfire]

Not enough info...what equipment at the so called reputable cargo feeder? How long are the upgrade times? How much flight time per year? Some of those feeder jobs are great if you get based where you live and only want to fly 12 hours a week...but you're looking at a very long time to fatten up the logbook to a competetive TT.

Anything to do with the world's largest (at least for the time being) and most dysfunctional airline or their feeder should be considered very carefully and with much suspicsion...

 

[IronCityBlue]

Not nearly enough info. First of all, is she hot? If so, have her call me to discuss. If not, just flip a coin cause that's more accurate of a decision than anything any rational human being can come up with anyway.

 

[FoxyWhiskey]

The cargo job is turbine and salaried, CASS, expected upgrade is 1 to 1.5 years according to other pilots & their recruiter. They average about 60 hours a month and have the soonest class date. All 4-weeks of training is unpaid.

Does that help???

-FW

 

[IronCityBlue]

The cargo job is turbine and salaried, CASS, expected upgrade is 1 to 1.5 years according to other pilots & their recruiter. They average about 60 hours a month and have the soonest class date. All 4-weeks of training is unpaid.

Does that help???

-FW

No, you still didn't answer the question. :laugh: But seriouslly, is it multi engine turbine? If its caravan, I would recommend the regional and get multi jet time. What about pay for the average line? You said a move or commute was inevitable, but is one commute easier than the other? Does one employer have more desireable domiciles than the other? Family pass bennies? Lots of factors at play.

 

[siucavflight]

It really depends what she is looking at, if things stay the same as they are now at Eagle I would tell her to consider it, I really like it here, the pay is good, days off are good, and the upgrade time is decreasing. However our future is very, very uncertain. AMR may sell, or divest us, AMR may go bankrupt, then all bets are off.

 

[Dirty Sanchez]

It doesn't matter which she picks. She is a chick. That will get her to a major faster than a white dude with 7000 TT and 3000 PIC jet...

 

[FoxyWhiskey]

Yes, the cargo job is Multi-Engine Turbine and has the standard health benefits & 401K. No travel benefits except for a CASS jumpseat for the employee.

We all know nothing is certain these days, and although I did my time at Eagle, I'm glad I made the jump when I did. Initially, I encouraged her to apply to AE first (and it's still her 1st choice 121-wise) but I think this cargo gig has Eagle beat. I think it could set her up for the option in a short period of time.

My feelings are this: so what if you only fly between 30-60 hours a month flying cargo. It's salaried and boxes continue to be very stable. However, her friends are at Eagle, she'll fly the hours at Eagle, and I think she'd have a blast with her flight benefits...if she can afford to USE them!



No harm in going to both interviews. Just trying to be a good mentor, see if there are things I haven't considered in this dillema. Thanks for all the help!

-FW

 

[FoxyWhiskey]

Boys will be boys....

Not nearly enough info. First of all, is she hot?

See SIUCAVFLIGHT's avatar, similar features...minus about 10 pounds and lighter brown hair! LOL

-FW

 

[Speedtape]

Not nearly enough info. First of all, is she hot? If so, have her call me to discuss. If not, just flip a coin cause that's more accurate of a decision than anything any rational human being can come up with anyway.

You are a loser, so she want be calling you.

 

[7574EVER]

If it means anything at all AMR has supposedly put off our sale or divestiture until '09. Appartenly they're too busy with the AA and APA contracts to find us a buyer. I'm not complaining. At least I have a job for now. I'll just sit quitely in my corner for the time being.

 

[OzBushWhacker]

Does she mind having to help load boxes? The freight outfit will upgrade quicker (i'd bet my house on less than a year if she can get to 135 mins) and get some PIC time. Eagle will be an easier life however and definitely better QOL.

The PIC turbine basically just ticks a box and alot of guys without 121 time leave to go to a regional anyways but it is a tick.

Seems she might have a big tick anyways being of the fairer sex.

 

[Rez O. Lewshun]

FW-

Not sure how long upgrade is at AE..... then again... I recently did a SJU turn and anyone in thier mid 20's should be flying out of there living the island life. Your sis should chasing as many Ricky Martin boy toys as she can get.... Cape Air, AE, Four Star...

The sooner she can be PIC the better...

Not sure about Eagle.... with AMR issues...

 

[FoxyWhiskey]

Actually she wouldn't mind loading boxes, she worked on the American Eagle ramp for 4 years in college and really loved it. Kind of a Tomboy! LOL

Rez- As for SJU, we went there on a girly vacation 2 years ago with friends and although we all had fun, she'd miss home way too much. She's really trying hard to get California based, even eventually!

-FW

 

[ratherbeflyen]

My advice would be go somewhere you can see yourself being in 10 years. This industry has always been unstable, and you never know what the future holds. God forbid you get a DUI, bend a plane, or do something else that makes it REALLY hard to get a new job.

 

[Quack]

what is the name of the cargo company?

 

[7574EVER]

She's really trying hard to get California based, even eventually!
-FW

Eagle was (as far as I know still is) offering choice of base. All she needs to do is say LAX when asked during the interview and her wish is granted.
The jungle jet is pretty senior out there from what I understand so she'd more than likely be on the saab. If she wants to be in California and likes props it's probably worth looking at.