Age 75 Rule

[Flopgut]

Awesome! Fly-til-ya-die...I am getting a bumper sticker for that one! Thanks for the idea.

That would actually make a good bag tag for a guy like you.

 

[Tejas-Jet]

Retire at 65 and die at 67.

Retire earlier and enjoy your RETIREMENT.

Many studies show that the more active a person stays....the better QOL they will have as they age.

 

[Amish RakeFight]

Many studies show that the more active a person stays....the better QOL they will have as they age.

Absolutely. The best way (according to current studies) to stave off dementia is to be both physically and mentally active. Regular exercise and performing a variety of semi-challenging intellectual tasks will help keep you mentally healthy and alert throughout your geriatric years.

What ISN'T conducive to a long life is working late into your years. The accompanying stress encountered during regular, full-time employment on an aging body just doesn't bode well for overall health. This has been proven through actuarial studies. Occupationally flying a pressurized plane for a few decades is even more detrimental to your health than an office position.

As an airline pilot you expose yourself on a regular basis to many life-shortening variables.

Daily stress and pressure
Commuting
Sedentary job
UV radiation
Pressure changes
Circadian rhythms
Poor on-the-go diets
Air quality
huffin Jet-A on the ramp
weather
low approaches
Emergencies
Salary
management

 

[atpcliff]

Hi!

It's interesting you mentioned that 75 starts with age 70.

JAA (the European FAA) formed a committee this year to study changing the max age for JAA pilots to Age 70.

Why have a SPECIFIC age limit???

cliff
YIP

 

[Kugelblitz]

Actually, if a generation of pilots, the preponderance of which were at the top of the pay scale for around 10 years or so have nothing too show in their retirement savings at 60, I fail to see how another 5 years will make a difference.

It is not like the 4 or 5 ex-wives, or the payments on the 4 properties and the cabin cruiser are going to go away.

 

[Kugelblitz]

Many studies show that the more active a person stays....the better QOL they will have as they age.

I doubt sitting on ones' as# for 5-6 hours and eating crew meals counts as active.

 

[Amish RakeFight]

Why have a SPECIFIC age limit???

Well, ahhh....

...maybe because it's been proven that your mental dexterity begins to seriously decline in your golden years. But I'm sure you knew that. Now that could pose a problem with a couple hundred folks behind you should the Metamucil hit the fan.

The old age home ain't so bad. Heck, there's TV and lots of eligible babes (husbands tend to die before their wives).

 

[FmrFreightDog]

(dorks)

I prefer "Cheese-eating surrender monkeys" myself (to borrow a phrase from The Simpsons)

 

[FmrFreightDog]

Absolutely. The best way (according to current studies) to stave off dementia is to be both physically and mentally active. Regular exercise and performing a variety of semi-challenging intellectual tasks will help keep you mentally healthy and alert throughout your geriatric years.

Precisely. Go for a run, swim, shuffleboard match... whatever. Work a crossword or soduku puzzle, watch Jeopardy, get involved with your grandkids, whatever you like. Play golf. Join a community service organization. All are good ideas, all will mentally stimulate you, and all will likely enhance your life.

However, continuing to stay in an airplane for another 5 years exposing yourself to radiation, horrendous sleep-wake cycles, 5 AM showtimes in Regina with a -30 OAT and poorly refrigerated crew meals is probably not going to be conducive to a long and healthy retirement.

Food for thought anyway. If you have financial obligations that drive you to work until you die, then by all means, do so. After all, it is now your legislated right. However, if you're over 60 and coming to work just because you "like what you do", it might be time to think about devoting your time to a hobby/grandchild/charity and enjoying your "sunset" years, as my father likes to call them.

Failure to exercise the brain is proven to lead to dementia and/or Altzheimer's. Repetition of the same checklist, same departure, same approach, same after landing checklist day in and day out doesn't really cut it when it comes to excercising the ol' noggin. Enjoy the idea of not knowing who your grandkids are when you're 70? It's not pleasant. I saw it happen to one of my own grandparents when I was in high school. One of the worst things I've ever seen....

Find something else to do and enjoy your life. You'll live longer, be happier, and be healthier. And... you won't die in a cockpit halfway to Narita, Saipan, Dubai, or Bombay. Personally, I can think of lots of ways I'd rather go.

Like I said before, it's up to you. The legislative process has now given you the ability to work 5 more years and shave an extra 10 off your life expectancy. If that's your bag, so be it. It just doesn't seem like a wise investment to me.

(ps. I'm not one of the "screw you age 65 guys". I could not care less. If I have my way, I'll be retired by the time I'm 50.... nowhere near the top of anyone's seniority list)

 

[jetjock6]

In the cockpit?? I think they should wear it!! At all times!! It should be wired to the standby bus and be reading the heart rate.

Great...another item on another bus I'm going to have to remember.

 

[800Dog]

The recent change from 60 to 65 only gained traction with the change in ICAO Annex 1 last year. You won't see a change in the Age 65 rule until there is a change in the ICAO rules again.

We should also adapt those countries tax systems, work ethic, corporate structure and other various liberal slow growth policies that are causing them to lag the rest of modern day society!

 

[Spidey]

Awesome! Fly-til-ya-die...I am getting a bumper sticker for that one! Thanks for the idea.

The pay still goes to door open, not last breath. I guess the kids against the 65 thing are all going to voluntarily retire when they turn 60. Merry Christmas ole Bud! Too bad we ain't flying around the world right before this one-makes the shopping harder!

 

[SuperFLUF]

............. I guess the kids against the 65 thing are all going to voluntarily retire when they turn 60......

Yes, that was and is the plan.

You might remeber that the MAJORITY of today's airline pilots were against changing the retirement age.

 

[ATRCAPT]

Retire at 65 and die at 67.

Retire earlier and enjoy your RETIREMENT.

Bingo! Except if I want to regain the money I'm going to loose I will HAVE to work to 65. Thanx just tons gramps.

 

[Spidey]

Yes, that was and is the plan.

You might remeber that the MAJORITY of today's airline pilots were against changing the retirement age.

Yeh, I'll be ready to just drive the tractor on the farm at 60, and the combine in the fall. That's after the second retirement. Keeps ya young.