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http://www.flightglobal.com/article...ck-in-spotlight-as-mica-calls-for-change.html

US pilot retirement age back in spotlight as Mica calls for change
By Mary Kirby

Influential US Congressman John Mica has called for fast passage of bipartisan legislation to increase the commercial airline pilot age to 65, saying US FAA reauthorization legislation that contains the measure is not likely to be enacted before year-end.
Congress is scheduled to adjourn later this month. The House of Representatives this year passed FAA reauthorization legislation, but the Senate has yet to act on a companion bill.
“It is very clear that legislation to reauthorize the Federal Aviation Administration will not be signed into law before the end of this year,” says Mica in a letter to House transportation committee chairman Jim Oberstar.
“Therefore, I strongly believe it is our obligation and this committee’s responsibility to pursue every legislative avenue to ensure that our most experienced pilots are permitted to continue flying commercial aircraft.”
The so-called “Freedom to Fly Act of 2007” was introduced earlier this year by Congressman Robin Hayes and currently has 313 cosponsors, including Mica.
“Our nation’s most experienced pilots are being forced into retirement at the alarming rate of more than 50 senior pilots every week. Moving this legislation promptly would save the jobs of our most seasoned commercial airline pilots at a time when a critical pilot shortage is approaching,” says Mica.
“This initiative has tremendous support and these pilots’ families cannot afford to wait another day for Congress to approve this needed change in the law.”
Current US law, put in place in 1959, limits both pilots’ maximum age to 60. The FAA is expected to table a notice of proposed rulemaking (NPRM) that would allow one pilot to be up to age 65 provided the other pilot is under age 60. However, the rulemaking process could take up to three years to complete, says Mica.
 
http://www.flightglobal.com/article...ck-in-spotlight-as-mica-calls-for-change.html

US pilot retirement age back in spotlight as Mica calls for change
By Mary Kirby

Influential US Congressman John Mica has called for fast passage of bipartisan legislation to increase the commercial airline pilot age to 65, saying US FAA reauthorization legislation that contains the measure is not likely to be enacted before year-end.
Congress is scheduled to adjourn later this month. The House of Representatives this year passed FAA reauthorization legislation, but the Senate has yet to act on a companion bill.
“It is very clear that legislation to reauthorize the Federal Aviation Administration will not be signed into law before the end of this year,” says Mica in a letter to House transportation committee chairman Jim Oberstar.
“Therefore, I strongly believe it is our obligation and this committee’s responsibility to pursue every legislative avenue to ensure that our most experienced pilots are permitted to continue flying commercial aircraft.”
The so-called “Freedom to Fly Act of 2007” was introduced earlier this year by Congressman Robin Hayes and currently has 313 cosponsors, including Mica.
“Our nation’s most experienced pilots are being forced into retirement at the alarming rate of more than 50 senior pilots every week. Moving this legislation promptly would save the jobs of our most seasoned commercial airline pilots at a time when a critical pilot shortage is approaching,” says Mica.
“This initiative has tremendous support and these pilots’ families cannot afford to wait another day for Congress to approve this needed change in the law.”
Current US law, put in place in 1959, limits both pilots’ maximum age to 60. The FAA is expected to table a notice of proposed rulemaking (NPRM) that would allow one pilot to be up to age 65 provided the other pilot is under age 60. However, the rulemaking process could take up to three years to complete, says Mica.

The ones whose twin-engined planes, 50' boats and Beach houses are not in jeopardy will be O.K. The others who've blown their wad in Vegas and have 2 ex-wives and expensive bimbo girlfriends are in more immeadiate need.

We must act NOW to prevent a terrible tragedy.
 
Just sent my letter asking for Rep. Mica to rethink his decision. Might not matter, but everyday that goes by another old bastard is gone. Adios grandpa!
 
This is a perfect example of how ALPA could stop this if Prater was more concerned about listening to the membership instead of his own desires. Both Mica and Oberstar are friends of the Association. If Prater would just do as the membership demands and ask these congressmen to put this issue on the back burner, then we wouldn't be worrying about the age change.
 
What a waste of space there in Washington! Won't fix the AMT in-time or fund social security, but hey let's fast track them poor hopeless airline pilots with three ex-wifes...:rolleyes:
 
Thanks for the link XJT....I expressed my opposition the the rule change. I don't think it will do much good at this point but it sure cant hurt any.
 
What a waste of space there in Washington! Won't fix the AMT in-time or fund social security, but hey let's fast track them poor hopeless airline pilots with three ex-wifes...:rolleyes:
Agreed!

Not to mention looking at FAR Flight Time/Duty Time limitations and an Air Traffic Control system that are just as old.
 
Oberstar has already said that he won't allow it to make it out of committee as stand alone legislation, he won't allow bush to sign it and take the credit for helping out the working man.

I wish you old geesers would just retire with dignity.
 
Karma is a B_tch fellas, and I hope the posts I've read on here don't come back to bite some of those who have made them in the future. Aviation is a boom and bust business full of its ups and downs, and I wouldn't criticize another pilot unless I'd walked a while in his shoes.

I guarantee some of those ripping these old geezers, will be the first to keep on past 60 in 30 or 40 years. Those of us in our 30s who think we're not going to get shafted out of social security are living in a dream world.

Any pilot who supports another pilot losing his job for anything other than performance and ability to pass a medical is playing with fire, and you could get burned eventually. Age 60 was nothing other than management's successful strategy to get rid of senior pilots at higher payscales.

There are those that can fly past 60, and some that can't. Performance on the job, and ability to pass a medical should be the determining factors. Not some arbitrary policy made up by airline management, politicians, and union bosses who all have their axes to grind.
 
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Karma is a B_tch fellas, and I hope the posts I've read on here don't come back to bite some of those who have made them in the future. Aviation is a boom and bust business full of its ups and downs, and I wouldn't criticize another pilot unless I'd walked a while in his shoes.

I guarantee some of those ripping these old geezers, will be the first to keep on past 60 in 30 or 40 years. Those of you who in you're 30s who think you're not going to get shafted out of social security are living in a dream world.

Any pilot who supports another pilot losing his job for anything other than performance and ability to pass a medical is playing with fire, and you could get burned eventually. Age 60 was nothing other than management's successful strategy to get rid of senior pilots at higher payscales.

There are those that can fly past 60, and some that can't. Performance on the job, and ability to pass a medical should be the determining factors. Not some arbitrary policy made up by airline management, politicians, and union bosses who all have their axes to grind.

Excellent post. I completely agree.
 
Karma is a B_tch fellas, and I hope the posts I've read on here don't come back to bite some of those who have made them in the future. Aviation is a boom and bust business full of its ups and downs, and I wouldn't criticize another pilot unless I'd walked a while in his shoes.

I guarantee some of those ripping these old geezers, will be the first to keep on past 60 in 30 or 40 years. Those of you who in you're 30s who think you're not going to get shafted out of social security are living in a dream world.

Any pilot who supports another pilot losing his job for anything other than performance and ability to pass a medical is playing with fire, and you could get burned eventually. Age 60 was nothing other than management's successful strategy to get rid of senior pilots at higher payscales.

There are those that can fly past 60, and some that can't. Performance on the job, and ability to pass a medical should be the determining factors. Not some arbitrary policy made up by airline management, politicians, and union bosses who all have their axes to grind.

Maybe you should also fight for kids to drive before age 16 and drink before age 21 (there's "kids" fighting in Iraq who can't even buy a beer). Also you should fight against mandatory retirement ages for ATC and FBI agents, since you're so prinicpled.

I support the current rule (that these older pilots pushing for change benefited from for many years) and I'm also planning on a bankrupt SS system and am thusly loading up my 401k each year. It's called planning ahead, not trying to screw those junior because of your own retirement problems
 
Thanks for the site...sent my message supporting the new legislation.

You guy's time would be better served by writing Congress for a change to the near criminal AMT tax situation.
 

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