USAirways Info

[Mav204]

What is the status of USAirways staffing and new hires.
Is the E-190 still junior?

 

[Uncle Bunkle]

Is the E-190 still junior?

No, all the senior guys decided to bid the Brazilian beast. A320 is junior now, and Phoenix is the junior base.

 

[ALGFLYR]

No, all the senior guys decided to bid the Brazilian beast. A320 is junior now, and Phoenix is the junior base.

He was just pulling your leg... everyone did not bid the 190... but PHX IS the junior base...

 

[get2flyin]

He was just pulling your leg... everyone did not bid the 190... but PHX IS the junior base...

Actually, since we haven't hired in PHX for more than two years and have had a fair amount of attrition, we will definitely be bringing some of new hires here on the A320 in '08. I thought the former PSA guys wanted to come back out West but I guess I was wrong. Evidently SAN to PHL isn't a bad commute. Shows you what I know....me being junior and all...

Lotta anger out East but very laid back in the West. Great place to work. But I'm sure flying the 190 in PHL and sharing a crew room with the East guys would be really fun too....

 

[iflyhigh]

According to a Phoenix pilot, on the West vacation award their was actually a couple of pilot junior to Dave Odell. I am assuming they are new hires. So Phoenix is junior.

 

[MK82Man]

Fellas – “junior” has no meaning at the new US Airways. As long as the East guys stall on implementing the Nic Award we are two separate pilot groups at the new US Airways. West dudes fly West airplanes with their seniority list and East flies East metal using their own seniority list.

It has been 2 years and 8 months since a new dude, Dave Odell, came to America West (I think we have some East recalls in the America West schoolhouse now that will be placed on the America West list soon). The last dude flying on the organic East list was hired in the Middle Ages, but some of the new hires are now just trickling into the new company and the 190. As a new hire you will be placed wherever the company needs you. I’ve yet to hear from a new hire what kind of seniority number they were assigned. I’m assuming they got two, one to be placed on the East or West List and also a Nic Seniority number (after the last furloughee).

Once the Nic Award is used, then base seniority will have some meaning as dudes shuffle around, but until that happens you will just be assigned by the company where you are needed and will be frozen on either the East or West side (and the applicable contract) until a joint contract and joint seniority is agreed too. With the East tactics in action, expect it to be in mid 2010. If USAPA passes, we will implode at 1800 dudes out West refuse to recognize the animal. So PHX or LAS is no more junior than PHL or BOS. You will be on the bottom of the list at whatever domicile you get. Years of Service don’t mean anything at the new US Airways … which is exactly what the East guys goofed up on when failing to negotiate at Seniority Award that valued time spent at the company. Until a joint list with a continual new flow of pilots happens, it is pretty much meaningless.

 

[Mav204]

Where are the PDT/ALG guys going right now? East or West?
Any idea when hiring off teh street will begin?

 

[greyskyracer]

Where are the PDT/ALG guys going right now? East or West?
Any idea when hiring off teh street will begin?

unfortunatly it has allready begun

 

[get2flyin]

unfortunatly it has allready begun

Unfortunately? Screw you man....bring it on! Somebody has to off-set all that attrition that the East supposedly brought to the table. We need them out West in a bad way. So far, all the new hires have East, but I think that's fixin' to change. Welcome to Phoenix!

 

[captain007]

Unfortunately? Screw you man....bring it on! Somebody has to off-set all that attrition that the East supposedly brought to the table. We need them out West in a bad way. So far, all the new hires have East, but I think that's fixin' to change. Welcome to Phoenix!

sign me up. if only they would call me for the interview. I'm ready.....

 

[PHXFLYR]

Unfortunately? Screw you man....bring it on! Somebody has to off-set all that attrition that the East supposedly brought to the table. We need them out West in a bad way. So far, all the new hires have East, but I think that's fixin' to change. Welcome to Phoenix!

Yeah, Phoenix.....15 shades of brown!!



PHXFLYR

 

[greyskyracer]

Unfortunately? Screw you man....bring it on! Somebody has to off-set all that attrition that the East supposedly brought to the table. We need them out West in a bad way. So far, all the new hires have East, but I think that's fixin' to change. Welcome to Phoenix!

Sorry I wasn't trying to offend you. My comment was a flow through reference and nothing more. You have my apolgies.

 

[get2flyin]

Sorry I wasn't trying to offend you. My comment was a flow through reference and nothing more. You have my apolgies.

Sorry if my response sounded like overreacting...I probably was. No worries, no offense taken.

 

[BeCareful!]

Fellas – “junior” has no meaning at the new US Airways.

Man, you got that right......neither does "senior."

The last dude flying on the organic East list was hired in the Middle Ages, but some of the new hires are now just trickling into the new company and the 190.

Well, yeah I guess 2000 is the "Middle Ages" for newbies to this game. Actually, if not for Republic and PSA delaying the hiring of pilots because of being allowed to "hold" J4J people for 9 months after their recall, there probably wouldn't be new hires just yet.

Looks like by March or April '08 all the classes will be purely new hire; at that point all the held J4J's will have been paroled.

My honest advice for anyone considering US Airways: unless you just have to live in one of our domiciles, and you feel sure that it will never close (PIT?), I'd look elsewhere. This company will have its way with you whenever the lighting is right. It's not just the two pilot groups that have turned seniority upside down; the company has little or no regard for seniority as well, and it often costs you, the line pilot, tens of thousands of dollars. When this happens, believe me, neither ALPA nor the Company will shed a tear or lift a finger to help.

Yep, Juniority and Lady Luck is the name of the game at this place. If you are properly junior, you might get placed on the 767, and the system basically says "screw those senior to you who want that flying. They should have been junior to themselves."

Think I'm kidding? Being (just a little)senior has cost me nearly $20,000 this year alone, and that's going to double over the next 12 months.

Ah, to be junior and placed on the 767.....must be nice.

The ALPA Grievance lady says: "just don't focus on the windfall happening junior to you."

You guys think ALPA's days are numbered only because of Nic? Think again!

 

[FLYLOW22]

"sign me up. if only they would call me for the interview. I'm ready....."

It's amazing how fast that turns into, "What in Blue Fuq was I thinking?!?!?!" Choose wisely sir.