If you commute on SWA ....

[AWACoff]

This isn't directed at "cactus"...more of a general question. Why would anyone want to sit in the cockpit if they could have a seat in the back? The 73 just isn't that roomy up front. Even for the roomy cockpits you can't exactly get up and walk around whenever you want.

Are they actually going to make you guys sit in the back if there are empty seats? That blows. Best of luck to you guys. You are always welcome on my jumpseat no matter what your company's policy is.

 

[glasspilot1]

Why would anyone want to sit in the cockpit if they could have a seat in the back? The 73 just isn't that roomy up front.

I would always prefer sitting in a cramped jumpseat rather than in a middle seat in steerage. Much better conversation. Also if you have a two leg commute (More common now after mainlines flooded the industry with RJ's and you get bumped more often. Example: STL) you can politely (!) be the first one off the plane and do the OJ Simpson sprint.

 

[citabriapilot]

I would prefer to preboard simply for the ability to talk to ask the captains permission without clogging up the entry area while passengers are being herded on board. Better to get preboarded, take care of the handshake, get out of the way and let the guys up front get back to their preflight duties.

 

[turn&pull]

The reason for having JS preboard and then take an aisle seat is so at the last minute we can have you come to the jumpseat if we need and you don't have to disrupt other pax to do it.

 

[bravodude]

Bravodude,

I do not work at SWA so I am not sure what your procedures are. My question is, when you dead head are you issued positive space tickets or do you do the right thing and volunteer for the cockpit jumpseat so the passengers get the first crack at your seat? Just curious.

I have always volunteered and the funny thing is so have every other pilot at SW. I see it everyday, we are oversold the ops agent comes up to the positive space guy and want's to know if he will sit up front with out hesitattion he gives up his seat. We all do it here. Part of the reason for coming to SW and not delta or united was the fact that we actually care about the guy that pays our salary and that keeps them coming back. My question to you is on every other airline I cannot preboard. The airline that you work for I believe does not allow you to pick a seat when you nonrev. At all the other airlines I have worked for you put yourself on the nonrev list, show up at the airport and if there was space you got on. I have never heard anyother airline empoyee complain about sitting in the middle seat. Oil is sky high our cost compared to evryone else is climbing, if sitting in the middle seat or sitting up front will allow one paying pax to be happy, come back and fly us again and save me from going thru what evry other major airline has gone thru than i will be glad to do it.
I think everyone has lost sight of who the real customer is.

 

[bravodude]

The reason for having JS preboard and then take an aisle seat is so at the last minute we can have you come to the jumpseat if we need and you don't have to disrupt other pax to do it.

No, if the JS and all nonrevs board last than there is no reason for anyone to disrupt anyone.

 

[cfm56-7]

You obviously don't commute...DIPSH!T

I did my time as a commuter ouit crying you act like swa owe's you some thing. To bad get in line

 

[bravodude]

You obviously don't commute...DIPSH!T

I did my time as a commuter ouit crying you act like swa owe's you some thing. To bad get in line

What are you doing on a SW thread don't you have to go and cry about how much pay you lost or that we are lowering the bar. I commute myself tough guy and have for 10 years. when your airline afords me the same privilage we gave you for years and years then you can talk to me until then pound sand.

 

[bravodude]

This is a new age of SWA....the internal customer is dead and the masses will be more and more pissed off here...I must say this is happening much sooner than I thought. Nothing good will last forever but I really thought this great business model was going to stick around for awhile...now, not so much. It just doesn't work when the employees are pissed off...its all about numbers now

Go fly for American, wait I hear Northwest is looking for a few good men, you sound like you would fit right in.

 

[cactus]

What are you doing on a SW thread don't you have to go and cry about how much pay you lost or that we are lowering the bar. I commute myself tough guy and have for 10 years. when your airline afords me the same privilage we gave you for years and years then you can talk to me until then pound sand.

Hey Sh!t for brains, my company afforded you the oportunity of multiple jumpseats long before SWA changed it's policy on the matter. AWA had a very liberal jumpseat policy long before most other airlines in this industry. In the past, I was bumped more than once from a half empty SWA airplane. So maybe you should be the one to go "pound sand"! I don't need SWA to get to work. I almost never ride them anymore (once in the last two years). My comments are mainly regarding SWA's treatment of there own pilots in this matter. If you do work for SWA, then they must have really lowered their standards in the last few years. Idiot.

 

[SWA/FO]

I would always prefer sitting in a cramped jumpseat rather than in a middle seat in steerage.

Sweet!

 

[Charlie Brown]

The memo does not say when we should board if we are jumpseating but taking a seat in the cabin. I would guess it would be cool to go down right after the preboards? You don't get a A, B, or C with a JS slip. The main concern for me is as someone else stated, finding a place to stow my bag. I imagine most CAs would let you put it up front if the bins were full.

 

[cactus]

I have always volunteered and the funny thing is so have every other pilot at SW. I see it everyday, we are oversold the ops agent comes up to the positive space guy and want's to know if he will sit up front with out hesitattion he gives up his seat. We all do it here. Part of the reason for coming to SW and not delta or united was the fact that we actually care about the guy that pays our salary and that keeps them coming back. My question to you is on every other airline I cannot preboard. The airline that you work for I believe does not allow you to pick a seat when you nonrev. At all the other airlines I have worked for you put yourself on the nonrev list, show up at the airport and if there was space you got on. I have never heard anyother airline empoyee complain about sitting in the middle seat. Oil is sky high our cost compared to evryone else is climbing, if sitting in the middle seat or sitting up front will allow one paying pax to be happy, come back and fly us again and save me from going thru what evry other major airline has gone thru than i will be glad to do it.
I think everyone has lost sight of who the real customer is.

If you continue to volunteer then you are a sap!!

 

[Charlie Brown]

If I have to sit up front to get a revenue or nonrev passenger on, I will do it. I don't think it is being a sap, rather either A) keeping my job secure by allowing people who pay to fly the seat they bought, or B) living by the Golden Rule. If it were my wife, parent, buddy, etc. trying to get that seat I would hope someone would do the same. What goes around comes around.

 

[SWA tech]

If you continue to volunteer then you are a sap!!

Nice to meet you sap I guess I am a sap also. Sure love the pay checks that don't bounce I guess we all are saps at swa