Piedmont's Rates will Go to Vote....

[WSurf]

I believe that they will get voted on by next week.



Captain * First Officer *
Year Rate Year Rate
1 $ 59.60 1 $ 28.50
2 $ 63.85 2 $ 32.81
3 $ 66.33 3 $ 34.17
4 $ 67.94 4 $ 35.51
5 $ 69.30 5 $ 36.86
6 $ 71.07 6 $ 37.50
7 $ 72.82 7 $ 38.15
8 $ 74.34 8 $ 38.48
9 $ 75.71 9 $ 38.79
10 $ 77.13 10 $ 40.07
11 $ 80.54
12 $ 83.09 add +1.75% for every year after 1st year
13 $ 85.77 until the day before the amendable date
14 $ 87.11
15 $ 88.84
16 $ 89.32
17 $ 89.97
18 $ 91.46
19 $ 92.98
20 $ 94.13
21 $ 94.46
22 $ 94.74
23 $ 95.07
24 $ 95.38
25 $ 96.02 add +1.75% for every year after 1st year until the day before the amendable date

 

[luckytohaveajob]

25 year pay cap. What a joke. 12 years is a contract.

 

[fowingman]

i hate saying this, but thats not to shabby, i know that more is better, but the f.o's got about a 4 grand increase first year from current contract, , actually i should have asked that pay scale is that for a new scale for large turboprop, or is a scale for current aircraft, and if current scale does that mean thats a blended scale for large turboprop aircaft

 

[ex j-41]

F/O rates need to be polished.
People still need to pay rent. If upgrade is 4 plus years then that is 4 years of crap pay.
For 200 days a year on the road, $35k is not enough.

And why does a year 10 captain make 20 thousand less than year 25 guy? Don't they do the same job?

Close the gap. Have a pay cap at year 10.

 

[BoilerUP]

The FO payrates don't need to be "polished", they need to be outright revised upwards to 60% of CA rates at a minimum. 60% of 3rd year CA pay would be $39.80 for a 3rd year FO...$5.63/hr MORE than the proposed rate.

I fly one of those unprofitable 50 seat CRJs and have a higher hourly rate as a 2nd year FO than a 4th year Q400 FO would under that scale. The Q would make Airways money hand-over-fist; demand fair wages for flying it!

 

[WSurf]

The Q would make Airways money hand-over-fist; demand fair wages for flying it!

Bingo.... Remember folks how this company has handled our Flowthru and how management has over the last five years made this one of the hardest worked pilot groups in the Nation.

US Airways is making tons of cash on the backs of its employees. Even with the captain rates that don't look to shabby for a Prop, FO's think long and hard. With our contract up in 09', the company said that we can't reneg. those rates in 09'.

Good Luck... I for one will vote it down.

 

[PropPiedmont]

Those aren't bad payrates for the Dash 8-1/2/3.

 

[greyskyracer]

Are theese the same rates that the MEC just turned down?

 

[ex j-41]

Realistically this is a min $50k/year job.
US Air is making close to $500 million this year.
For each F/O to make $5/hr raise then they would have to charge each customer $.25/hr of flight.
Peanuts. Half those people are buying $4 starbucks.
Enough is enough.

"Taking it back"..... Whatever.

 

[LowlyPropCapt]

No... Not only no but hell no.

FO rates need to come up. So do the CA rates actually. I would like to know how many years we would have to endure these rates as well. I for one won't be a slimely bottom feeder... VOTE NO!

 

[Kream926]

what needs to be done for an industry wide change?

are most regionals making money?

 

[mu2]

I think some senior Caps will try to get it past and sell out the F/Os. I for one vote NO. Stop pooing on me!

 

[mu2]

This explains exactly how I feel.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eyu7nN3kBnw

 

[Buschpilot]

Keep in mind that FlyBe in Europe is starting new hire FO's out at 50k on the Q400. I know, I know - this ain't Europe. But this ain't a third world country either.

 

[rumrnr78]

Those are good payscales but they should be compressed to a 12 year period.
The airline does not want you there that long so why have the scale?
If they would pay well, let people get their time, bank some cash to move on, they would!
Good luck-rum

 

[twighead]

Are theese the same rates that the MEC just turned down?

Yes, and If it goes to a vote it will get a no from me as well.

 

[79%N1]

Those rates are much higher than ASA's TA'd 50 seat RJ/ATR72 rates!

 

[WSurf]

Those rates are much higher than ASA's TA'd 50 seat RJ/ATR72 rates!

Are most folks at ASA looking to turn there rates down?

 

[ualdriver]

I think 40-60K/year for an entry level- experienced First Officer would be extremely reasonable for a person responsible for a multi-million dollar piece of equipment and 100's of millions of dollars in liability.

 

[ex j-41]

The pay should be $100k. The airlines just won't pay it. $28k is just an insult.
200 days a year on the road.
Bed Bug bites 3 times a year
Missing kids soccer games.
Eating crappy airport food.
Worse having to eat crappy crew meals.
Working weekends.
Working nights.
Working really really really early.
Trying to get a good nights sleep in crappy beds.
Lugging 70lbs of clothes/books etc... for 4 days at a time.
I could go on but you get my point.
We do an awefull lot more than just fly and airplane. And for all that they put us through we deserve $100k minimum. Doesn't mean we will get it but it is what i believe all pilots deserve.