UPS and college degree

[7dustfan]

Are Pilots getting hired at UPS without a four year degree? Anyone have info on it? Thanks!

 

[Green Baron 737]

From what I have seen it's very rare. You'd need a lot of flight experience or shuttle landings for them to overlook this one. A basket weaving degree isn't that hard to get.

GB

 

[L'il J.Seinfeld]

Not likely at all, although it has happened. Supposedly UPS has not been happy with some of the newhires from the ACMIs. No flying issues just other non-flying related employee stuff. Also, supposedly the leadership in the MD-11 training dept are pushing hard towards hiring military tanker and transport guys--they all obviously have at least a bachelors and most have masters. A friend of mine who is a mgt pilot (I knew hime before we were both at UPS) has told me this. I have no opinion on the matter just relaying what was told to me.

 

[7dustfan]

Thanks for the information. 30 more credits to go I guess.

 

[DA-20]

funny, they should ask my ACMI mang. where most of are pilots are going.

 

[Guam360]

Thanks for the information. 30 more credits to go I guess.

I am in the same boat, break out the oars, it is going to take me forever to finish this thing up, unless I can get some college kid to do all the work for me, I may never do it.
oh well....

 

[Flyingdutchman]

Guy I know got hired in 2000 w/o degree.... All his friends where laughing in his face "why the heck would you go to UPS! come with us to United!"

Guess who is laughing now being a senior MD11 guy over there...

 

[Tyler Durden]

I am in the same boat, break out the oars, it is going to take me forever to finish this thing up, unless I can get some college kid to do all the work for me, I may never do it.
oh well....

It can be done! I'm doing it right now with a newborn at home. It's tough, but some things just have to happen.

 

[jmreii]

Guy I know got hired in 2000 w/o degree.... All his friends where laughing in his face "why the heck would you go to UPS! come with us to United!"

Guess who is laughing now being a senior MD11 guy over there...

That was then and today is now. I wouldn't hold your breath.

 

[spitfire1500]

I know of guys that have gone to UPS with a 2 year deg.

 

[capt. megadeth]

That was then and today is now. I wouldn't hold your breath.

I honestly think....and please correct me if I am wrong....that TODAY the only way you are going to get hired without a degree is if you have A TON of heavy jet, international time. RJ drivers can forget it. IMO but what do I know?

 

[Guam360]

"so you are saying there is a chance?" sweet! (1:1,000,000)

 

[ClippedWings]

"what was all that one in a million talk"

 

[Guam360]

just quoting 'Dumb and Dumber' when Jim Carey asks the women he likes if there is a chance and she said, something about a million in one chance of dating her, so he says, "so you are saying there is a chance", blah, blah, blah

 

[highsky]

Just get the degree. You'll have an exponentially greater chance. Furthermore, and more importantly, you'll enrich yourself.

I must say, I disagree with some of what has been said often on this subject, which is: "Just get a degree in anything...basketweaving, art, or something simple...it doesn't matter, you just need to fill the square." That's all horse$hit.

If you're going to go through the sacrifice and effort of attaining a degree in higher education, make it something that will benefit you in life. You have decided to be a professional pilot? How about a degree in something AVIATION RELATED? I did.

That said, at least get it in something that can improve your life...such as Business, Finance, Communications, etc. I don't know. But I do know that there are a thousand better ways to spend your time and hard earned dollars than by wasting it on some useless degree program. Do yourself a favor.

 

[Fedora]

We've got a guy who bought an online degree and is quite proud of it. Even told his Grandma he graduated from college. They are out there, complete with transcipts and diplomas.

 

[capt. megadeth]

If you're going to go through the sacrifice and effort of attaining a degree in higher education, make it something that will benefit you in life. You have decided to be a professional pilot? How about a degree in something AVIATION RELATED? I did.

That said, at least get it in something that can improve your life...such as Business, Finance, Communications, etc. I don't know. But I do know that there are a thousand better ways to spend your time and hard earned dollars than by wasting it on some useless degree program. Do yourself a favor.

I agree although I would stay away from the Aviation Management degree. I would get a degree you can use for a back up in case you lose your medical or something like that. I have a degree in nursing and it was one of the best decisions I ever made.

 

[B727Driver]

Get the degree, but most of all, have a good network of contacts with the company or companies you have in your sights. You can have the degree, but with no contacts your in with all the applicants. A few good contacts, your file may rise to the 'give this one a look' pile and in some cases without a degree.

 

[highsky]

I agree although I would stay away from the Aviation Management degree. I would get a degree you can use for a back up in case you lose your medical or something like that. I have a degree in nursing and it was one of the best decisions I ever made.

Excellent point. 50% of the time, I regret getting an aviation degree, because I know that if I ever lose my medical, I'll be working at Burger King.

That said, I can tell you this: All of my college academic training with aviation has been very useful over my career. I leared much more about aviation with my Aeronauctical Science degree academically, than I ever did in the Air Force. I put all my eggs in one basket, but so far, it has paid off.

 

[Jurasicpilot]

I know several who went over to brown in 1999-2000 simply because they didn't have a degree. There were a couple of new hires this year (I know of) with no degree. One ended up in the back of an 8 and the other I'm not sure.

I have a post graduate degree and it hasn't ever done d**k for me. I would trade it for the money I spent in a heartbeat. Not to mention a UPS'er over there on the 76 with a GED which is making more money than I ever will. That sorry ****** will send be a Christmas card here a in a couple of months to rub my nose in it.