Focus Air Cargo Hiring B747 Captains and First Officers

[Draginass]

T&Cs have changed and should be updated by now on airline pilot central. The management team here is new and pilot friendly. None of the "original team" is left.

"New" management means NOTHING. "Friendly" means NOTHING.

Only hard-core improvements and tangible results mean anything. I've experienced new "friendly" managements make false promises of improvements, then working conditions and operational safety actually get worse.

In this day and age of incompetent management, you have to assume it's all BS until PROVEN by a track record of performance.

 

[Hocus Focus]

the "new guys" were all employees of the Company so they directly experienced the first "REGIME". They just so happen to be "Pilot Friendly" because they are "PILOTS", and they have made significant changes so far.. as in the pay changes announced last week and the first PFE being allowed to upgrade..so they are trying and at this point thats all u can ask for.

 

[khsgt]

I am in the class on Aug 6th as a newhire FO. I'm excited as can be and I can definitly say the new guys in management are trying hard and pilot friendly. I'm very impressed by all of them so far, and I think they have their shiznit together not only from a pilot friendly standpoint, but from a business standpoint.

 

[countbat]

Could you name just one scab at FKS? There was one and he's long gone

I don't know much about the company. I am just curious as any aviator should be regarding a new start-up. But if you search older threads on this forum regarding Focus (about 2 years old) you would see people were talking about scabs in management.
As a former Eastern pilot I don't like scabs. Period.
Also Hocus Focus was nice enough to let me know some insides, such as training pay increase, 16 days extendable to 19 days(as overtime) a month duty. Checking pilotpay.com Focus is still short of Atlas in pay. Focus pays first year 59 USD per hour with 60 guarantee on a 2 months bid which means if the first month you fly 80 hours on the second month they have you flying only 40 hours so you don't get overtime for the 20 hours flown on first month. (Corect me if I am wrong on my assumption). Atlas you first year is 75 USD an hour with 62 guarantee. First year base pay at Atlas is 55K, at Focus only 42k. So Focus has some more to go toward pilots to make it competitive, and regarding pilots friendly management I have seen and heard it all. Management is management. They are friendly as long they need you. Once they have more pilots lined up to get hired their attitude will change. Trust me on that one. At my age I have seen them all. Never seen a management friendly all the way.

Funny thing is each one of your "known facts" is wrong. HAHA. How about actual facts next time?

You are not 12, are you?

 

[Fliteidol]

" Atlas you first year is 75 USD an hour with 62 guarantee. First year base pay at Atlas is 55K"

First year guarantee at Atlas is 50 hours!!!!!!

 

[Bdfg1]

I don't know much about the company. I am just curious as any aviator should be regarding a new start-up. But if you search older threads on this forum regarding Focus (about 2 years old) you would see people were talking about scabs in management.
As a former Eastern pilot I don't like scabs. Period.
Also Hocus Focus was nice enough to let me know some insides, such as training pay increase, 16 days extendable to 19 days(as overtime) a month duty. Checking pilotpay.com Focus is still short of Atlas in pay. Focus pays first year 59 USD per hour with 60 guarantee on a 2 months bid which means if the first month you fly 80 hours on the second month they have you flying only 40 hours so you don't get overtime for the 20 hours flown on first month. (Corect me if I am wrong on my assumption). Atlas you first year is 75 USD an hour with 62 guarantee. First year base pay at Atlas is 55K, at Focus only 42k. So Focus has some more to go toward pilots to make it competitive, and regarding pilots friendly management I have seen and heard it all. Management is management. They are friendly as long they need you. Once they have more pilots lined up to get hired their attitude will change. Trust me on that one. At my age I have seen them all. Never seen a management friendly all the way.



You are not 12, are you?

But wait. I thought what you said were "known facts". Care to rephrase your statement?

"Focus pays first year 59 USD per hour with 60 guarantee on a 2 months bid which means if the first month you fly 80 hours on the second month they have you flying only 40 hours so you don't get overtime for the 20 hours flown on first month. (Corect me if I am wrong on my assumption)." I hereby correct you on your assumption. Don't let those "known facts" get in the way again.

"You are not 12, are you?" No but close enough to be considered. However I am old enough to know better than to post something as a "known fact" without verifiying it actually is.

 

[heilhaavir]

I don't know much about the company. I am just curious as any aviator should be regarding a new start-up. But if you search older threads on this forum regarding Focus (about 2 years old) you would see people were talking about scabs in management.
As a former Eastern pilot I don't like scabs. Period.
Also Hocus Focus was nice enough to let me know some insides, such as training pay increase, 16 days extendable to 19 days(as overtime) a month duty. Checking pilotpay.com Focus is still short of Atlas in pay. Focus pays first year 59 USD per hour with 60 guarantee on a 2 months bid which means if the first month you fly 80 hours on the second month they have you flying only 40 hours so you don't get overtime for the 20 hours flown on first month. (Corect me if I am wrong on my assumption). Atlas you first year is 75 USD an hour with 62 guarantee.

NOBODY likes scabs here countbat, and I'll repeat myself, there was one and he's long gone, we helped him go :beer: . There are NO scabs here. I don't mind facts at all as long as they're correcto mundo. As for the "assumption", it is wrong indeed. As Hocus Focus & I have said, T&Cs have changed. 2 month bids YES (makes life way easier) but pay & OT now based on 30 days as it should be. And finally, to correct you one more time, Atlas first year monthly guarantee = 50hrs.

Seriously, try not to compare apples and oranges. Do you remember what Atlas and PO paid when they started up 14 years ago? Any Atlas or Polaroids want to pitch in honestly? It took them a while and lots of painful negotiations to get to where they're at today, QOL & paywise. By the way PO might have a 16 day work rule but your commute is on your time. I don't know what it is at Atlas, but here your days on "include" travel to & from work.

Frankly I don't see why the animosity, no one is asking you or Draginass to come on over, no one here is trying to make it sound like we're better than you. You asked and I answered. Things have changed for the better (without a union I might add ) and will hopefully continue to change. Not only that, but if we were to organize one day, we'd then be able to negotiate on a +...

Welcome newbies!

 

[countbat]

Take it easy mates. It is not the end of the world. It should be just talking. I don't work for Atlas or any other cargo outfit out there. I am a just NWA retired pilot, former Eastern. If you guys at Focus ( are you management by any chance?)) can make your place to be the best darn outfit out there to work for, my hat off to you. Happy pilots make me happy.
I double checked Atlas in Airline Forum center again and it does say 50 hours first year (my bad.....now kill me) and second year FO jumps to 62 hours with 85 USD per hour. Good increase I might say. I picked Atlas because it starts with "A". I wish you guys at Focus the best and hope one day you will be taking over Fedex, UPS, DHL, Atlas and anybody out there.
Also thank you for correcting me regarding 2 month bid and pay. That's nice. Once again I hope you guy will become a giant and freight business. Good luck. Just be a place where every pilot will be happy and proud of being part of.

 

[Hocus Focus]

Family atmosphere is our goal, like what Gemini had in the beginning, everyone working and pulling in the same direction, with the crews being treated like they are an asset not an enemy. We got off on the wrong foot but that foot was severed and now we have a new and better "foot", our investors have stood steadfast in their commitment (as witnessed in our jets becoming fixtures in certain locations) to the vision as we reorganized to come back as better airline. We have no aspirations to take over the world but just to build a company that you can be proud to say your a part of. Still alot of work to be done though.