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Tram

Tram

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Just curious on what some of you guys that are currently there think about this?

I am currently at a regional and am starting to think - regionals and 121 may just not be what I'm looking for..

7 on, 7 off sounds extremely bearable for me..

However, I also don't want to move from where I am currently located, so I was thinking:

If home basing comes back for new hires, I could try and get one, move to a base and then move back when I got the chance and be home based..

Thanks guys

Jeff
 
Tram said:
If home basing comes back for new hires, I could try and get one, move to a base and then move back when I got the chance and be home based..

Thanks guys

Jeff
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This is the end of July. It looks like something is in the works for Oct. You "should" have no problem getting what you want.
 
Put your app in now to NJA if you haven't done so already. That way, if hings do change for the better, you'll be that much further up the stack.

Best of luck,
265
 
I agree.. If you wait until things change, you're screwed.. So many guys from other fracs are waiting for domiciles to go away. Get your app in now, and if things don't change, when they do call you, just say thnx, but I was hoping the domiciles would go away so I'll have to pull my app..
 
Heard it straight from the horses mouth at recurrent (RTS)...they are working on additional cities for domiciles, but home basing is a ways off.
 
Domicile trap

Hawker dude said:
then why do we have a TA to vote on Oct 1st?
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It's not going to be a slam-dunk. Because of the way the contract reads, pilots who are presently HBA'd could be entrapped by the 90 mile domicile net should the city they are living near become a domicile.

The company has the right to open a domicile anywhere it pleases, unilaterally. However, it doesn't want to start a mutiny.
 
Mooneymite said:
It's not going to be a slam-dunk. Because of the way the contract reads, pilots who are presently HBA'd could be entrapped by the 90 mile domicile net should the city they are living near become a domicile.

The company has the right to open a domicile anywhere it pleases, unilaterally. However, it doesn't want to start a mutiny.
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Not according to BO and RTS...In the Hangar meeting they said absolutely NO pilots would be displaced from their HBA if they expanded domiciles...
 
So what does this mean for people that have currently submitted their applications for TEB/CMH? Does this mean hiring will halt until domiciles are figured out? Been 2.5 weeks since my application arrived in CMH and still waiting for the app accepted email. Wrote on application that I was willing to accept TEB or CMH, whichever was available first. If new domiciles open up, does that mean a long wait for getting hired? If lots of Indy guys leave TEB if an IAD domicile would open, I assume they would still need to hire to fill the TEB loss. Or am is this thinking wrong?
 
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BO said if you live in kansas city, get your app. in.
Guess that means more gateways? HBA guys will NOT be affected! They couldn't stress that enough. They said we are progressing, NOT regressing. They wouldn't give all the details because they are still discussing options. Looks like it's going to get a whole lot better for us commuters.
 
On the other hand ... no agreement might be reached ... in which case we get whatever is negotiated in 2010 and everything remains the way it is now until then.

You are rolling the dice if you make a move based on what MIGHT happen.

Be ready to accept the consequences if you don't roll a SEVEN
 
Actually it can't hurt to apply now. We will know what happens in Oct before anyone who applies now gets hired so its really a no risk situation. If nothing changes, don't take the interview...
 
Excellent idea! Likewise, if you want to apply but are put off by the Domicile Debacle why not call up to ask for an update on the situation. Then say, "Oh sorry, I was only interested if the list was being expanded to something reasonable."

Good luck to all of the NJ domicile pilots and any of you waiting for an improvement. Keep speaking out. It can't hurt, and it may very well be making a difference. Guess we'll find out in October...

Fingers crossed...:)
Netjetwife
 
I can only hope that any positive changes in the current domicile system is not tied to the upcoming October LOA vote.

Presently, I am not in favor of some of the LOA's and the loopholes that Company has already begun to exploit. If these loopholes are not remedied I will have no choice but to vote against the entire package.....

The domicile issue isn't even a change in the CBA so there shouldn't be any need for membership ratification. The current CBA allows the Company to open up as many new domiciles as they wish without any input from the Union.
 
Well, how about scheduling/travel abuse of the 'new' after midnight language? Are you ready for 8/6?
 
How about the double OT after being at the terminal for more than 3 hrs.

If you are offered a hotel by the company you no longer get the double OT.....whether you take the hotel or not.

Where is that in the LOA?....it isn't
 
DO-82 driver said:
I can only hope that any positive changes in the current domicile system is not tied to the upcoming October LOA vote.

Presently, I am not in favor of some of the LOA's and the loopholes that Company has already begun to exploit. If these loopholes are not remedied I will have no choice but to vote against the entire package.....

The domicile issue isn't even a change in the CBA so there shouldn't be any need for membership ratification. The current CBA allows the Company to open up as many new domiciles as they wish without any input from the Union.
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you need to watch the hangar video on crew ops. it will give you a little more info than you have now.
 
I'll watch the video but I'll also keep in mine what is going on out on the line and make my decision from that.

I expect a pretty good sales pitch in the next few months.
 
so the loa goes TU in dec then what? Now the company will continue to offer hotels if you sit in the terminal for more then 3 hours.. if not you get single ot..
also the aftermidnight.. guess what.. the company would still continue it's present scheduling practices..why? because there would be quite a few pilots who wouldn't bother grieving it. They will take their 1 extended day and not bother with the paperwork...

Yeah, the loa's have proven the company would rather pay for hotels rather then pay the pilots, but they will continue this whether or not it's voted in.
 
Yes, the Company could do the right thing now, but I think it's highly unlikely that they will without first trying to get something they want in exchange. From their perspective, they have something the pilots want.

As very few are privy to the talks going on during IBB, it seems apparent that the soonest opportunity of having a real look at the results of IBB will be in October....

The package needs to close the loopholes, clean up the ambiguous language, and be an improvement worth voting for. I couldn't agree more. NJW
 
gunfyter said:
The company can open HBA's or more domiciles RIGHT NOW.

What they waiting for?
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Maybe its not about opening up more "domiciles" Maybe it is, like BO said, a long term fix... We need to change the way the contract reads even if they do open more domiciles, for instance...The ability to change domiciles every 3 months as the HBA folks do now. Just one small example. The company can't change all of this tomorrow. They need it to be voted on if we are to make permanent improvements.
 
bosdrx said:
For example?
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LOC concerning FRDA. For those not in the know, This LOC essentially gave the company a chance to crew rot us for up to 6 hours in a day which is totally against the spirit of the language in the CBA. It was intended for the company to get a crew and airworthy plane matched up. Instead it is used for punitive scheduling routinely. I don't know what we got for that, but whatever it was it was too much.

After-midnight? How many have you had?
3 hour airline show? didn't take them long to find a loophole there.

IBB has yet to impress me...
 

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