Southwest and Skywest

[airtime42]

Just got out of recurrent. Atkins was in there saying that they are in talks with a carrier based in Texas that wants to ad some 900's, starting Jan 1.

 

[FlyBarneyJets]

Good lord. This rumor again?

 

[Medeco]

Is there a reason it could not be American? Im not up to speed on American and Scope if they have any?

Medeco

I dont see Southwest going outside the model. But stranger thing have happened.

 

[flyboyzz1]

I don't think americans scope would allow it. Same reason eagle is limited to only 25 crj700s

 

[rjacobs]

American wouldnt allow it, there scope is weight not seat count, and the 25 CRJ 700's are at eagle because of flow back's flying them(am I correct on this). I also cant see SW doing anything like this because those guys are militant about flying done under the SW name only being done by SW pilots, I say right on to them.

 

[BoilerUP]

Braniff...Believe It!

 

[Twotter Driver]

You won't be seeing them at CAL!

 

[SkyNation]

CAL? hmmmm...........

I doubt it. what else did Jerry say?

 

[DGdaPilot]

American wouldnt allow it, there scope is weight not seat count, and the 25 CRJ 700's are at eagle because of flow back's flying them(am I correct on this). I also cant see SW doing anything like this because those guys are militant about flying done under the SW name only being done by SW pilots, I say right on to them.

No you're not correct. There was a battle early in the decade between APA and AMR as to where the CRJ's would go. They went to Eagle. Flow-backs at Eagle have nothing to do with the CRJs. Sure, quite a few of them are flying it, but that's just happenstance. We are limited to 50 seventy-seaters, not just the 25 we have. We have options on the other 25....gawd knows when those will come onto the property. The ATR's are specifically written into the scope clause since they are 64 and 66 seaters. I wouldn't be surprised that AMR wants 90 seaters at Eagle or Connection, but they're not gonna get it without a huge battle. The APA doesn't roll easy, IMO. And personally, I don't want 90 seaters at Eagle. I want a place to go to someday......don't want to stay here for the next 40 years of my career.

 

[dbchandler1]

While we are on the SkyWest Crj-900 topic It should be noted that there was a Northwest Airlink Crj-900 on the ramp in St. George yesterday.

 

[BigLebowski]

SkyW was in talks with SWA a long time ago...nothing ever came of it.

 

[Exskydiverdrivr]

Don't write off CAL yet boys and girls. The whle reason we took bros in there a couple of years ago was to get our foot in the door. Admittedly colgan outbid us because JA would not go with bigger turboprops.But we did bid on that
crj flying that's happenin now.

 

[BoilerUP]

Don't write off CAL yet boys and girls. The whle reason we took bros in there a couple of years ago was to get our foot in the door. Admittedly colgan outbid us because JA would not go with bigger turboprops.But we did bid on that
crj flying that's happenin now.

Skywest and RAH, both salivating like Pavlov's dogs over the mere prospect of CAL-ALPA folding on scope over 50 seats.

:smash:

 

[cwebster2]

Don't write off CAL yet boys and girls. The whle reason we took bros in there a couple of years ago was to get our foot in the door. Admittedly colgan outbid us because JA would not go with bigger turboprops.But we did bid on that
crj flying that's happenin now.

got your foot in the door but nothing will ever come of it. If CAL ever does fold on scope there probably wont even be a bid. I'm sure republic would be happy do fly 175's or 190's for the same contract prices they are giving cal for the -200's. In terms of getting a foot in the door, they did much better than you. Heck even colgan is getting bigger airplanes for CAL, you just got shown the door.

 

[homerjdispatch]

Just got out of recurrent. Atkins was in there saying that they are in talks with a carrier based in Texas that wants to ad some 900's, starting Jan 1.

Once more, his last name is Atkin. There is no "s" at the end....

Carry on.........

 

[Flip]

got your foot in the door but nothing will ever come of it. If CAL ever does fold on scope there probably wont even be a bid. I'm sure republic would be happy do fly 175's or 190's for the same contract prices they are giving cal for the -200's. In terms of getting a foot in the door, they did much better than you. Heck even colgan is getting bigger airplanes for CAL, you just got shown the door.

Wrong info. Skywest was awarded the flying but declined because of the short term nature of the flying and a last minute change to the mix of airplanes. It went from being a mix of turboprops and rjs to all rjs. The main reason however was Jerry decided he didn't want another short term contract (3-5 years which CAL wanted because of the uncertainty over what Expressjet were going to do with their planes) because of the fact that SKW had just closed Houston.

 

[SkyNation]

Flip is correct. Plus the margins were too low.

 

[RollinOnMy22sYo]

SWA management is too smart to open that can of worms in the middle of section 6. The SWA pilots consider scope and codeshare issues one of the very top issues in their negotiations. Management starting an RJ codeshare would be tantamount to declaring war. Gary Kelly is much smarter than that.

 

[Twotter Driver]

Maybe SkyWest will bid on 50 seat flying with CAL but you will not see a 90 seater jet flown by a regional carrier over there!

 

[Bako Cap]

Hello??????

We are having trouble staffing the aircraft we have now. I don't think that any more expansion is a good idea or we'll end up like Mesa, cancelling a boat load of flights due to no crews.