Mesaba now filing SF34/G

[WMUSIGPI]

It's official the magic boxes are actually usable. It will be interesting to see how much time is saved with using FMS routings.

 

[xjhawk]

this is a boring thread, but what the heck, I will respond. I do not think it will save much, I mean at least in MEM we always got a heading for direct anyways. So whats the big difference. What the company had to invest to get them going was rediculous.

 

[Prop2Jet]

Wow Colgan is still /A and will always be until the feds decommission the VORS

 

[Turtlesfly]

Colgan will be /A even after they decommission the VORs

 

[ImbracableCrunk]

I heard we might be using them for approaches, too. The new QRH is finally coming out. . .

Mesaba Airlines: Airline of the year 1997.... and 2007?

 

[WMUSIGPI]

without having them approach approved there really isn't much use for them. Most of the Saab trips are too short to take advantage of them. They were useful on the Avros with the longer flights but the Saabs are usually not going much past the SIDs or STARs. And since those aren't in the database.....Now if we could do approaches with them that would be a different story.

 

[John Pennekamp]

I thought MSA was bankrupt just 6 months ago. where the heck did they get money to install FMS in a Saab fleet? Maybe the bankruptcy was a sham (TIC).imp:

 

[A-Track]

Them FMS things were installed years ago, and then deactivated due to training - retraining issues / costs, or something like that. At least thats what I was told back when I was working on them.

 

[ImbracableCrunk]

I thought MSA was bankrupt just 6 months ago. where the heck did they get money to install FMS in a Saab fleet? Maybe the bankruptcy was a sham (TIC).imp:

Nooooo. No. They wouldn't spend millions to cause a artificial bankruptcy to force labor concessions on a pilot group through a slanted legal system.

That's just silly.

Oh, and they didn't actually have to install them, they were ballast since we got the planes. They just had to un-collar the breaker, update the databases and train everyone. (This is the Direct button, it allows you to go to not just VORs and NBDs, but fixes, as well! Oooooh.)

 

[Crizz]

Nooooo. No. They wouldn't spend millions to cause a artificial bankruptcy to force labor concessions on a pilot group through a slanted legal system.

That's just silly.

It wasnt about labor concessions at all.. those were just window dressing to make the whole thing look good. The real intention was to bring XJ to its knees so big red could buy for pennies on the dollar.

 

[XJ-spartacus]

At least now you can nav and nap. No more course and bracketing. So at the very least, you got that goin for ya...

-Spartacus

 

[WMUSIGPI]

Yea, but still no drift diamond.:smash:

 

[XJWRENCH]

Oh, and they didn't actually have to install them, they were ballast since we got the planes. They just had to un-collar the breaker, update the databases and train everyone. (This is the Direct button, it allows you to go to not just VORs and NBDs, but fixes, as well! Oooooh.)

Well... Half of them didn't work, we did have to put parts in them to get them up. It wasn't a matter of taking the ty wrap off. They just sat around too long. Acutally I'm surprised at least half worked.

 

[Monster Buck]

ben using them the last couple of days. they work great. btw you can save the flight plans and sids and stars, thats how they get IN the box. Its all about gitten in the box.

 

[xjhawk]

you are right, its all about getting in the BOX

 

[ImbracableCrunk]

Well... Half of them didn't work, we did have to put parts in them to get them up. It wasn't a matter of taking the ty wrap off. They just sat around too long. Acutally I'm surprised at least half worked.

So what was the deal with the memory not working? What did you guys find out? Was it the Fetzer Valve?

 

[XJWRENCH]

So what was the deal with the memory not working? What did you guys find out? Was it the Fetzer Valve?

No, we just took out the computers and dropped them on the floor a couple of times and all was well. Kind of like re-racking them. We showed it......

 

[ImbracableCrunk]

No, we just took out the computers and dropped them on the floor a couple of times and all was well. Kind of like re-racking them. We showed it......

Ah, that's what I do to my computer when it starts acti

acti

acti

-hold on-

[ka-thunk]

acting up. Works like a charm.