Pilot CASM

[dcman]

Does anyone know where I can find info that details the pilot CASM of each airline?

 

[YourPilotFriend]

At NWA its about $0.0015 cents a mile.

 

[800Dog]

At NWA its about $0.0015 cents a mile.

Thats four times what it is at Skybus.

 

[ualdriver]

Does anyone know where I can find info that details the pilot CASM of each airline?

Go to BTS.gov. It has EVERY possible financial statistic you could possibly want. It is very user UNFRIENDLY. Try e-mailing them if you're trying to find a specific statistic like that and they're usually pretty good about pointing you in the right direction. Labor cost data is found in Form 41, schedule ? (I forgot which schedule, sorry!).

If you want a "rule of thumb" for pilot costs at a large carrier like a legacy, roughly 20% of an airline's total costs are labor, and about 20% of that are pilot costs. You can extrapolate that out further and estimate that about 4% of a large airline's total costs are pilot salaries and benefits. With airlines nowadays making 1%-4% net margins on a good year, you can see why large, established carriers can be really hurt when competitors use discount airline pilot labor to subsidize their bottom line.

 

[dcman]

Thanks. Been to that web site. DOT Form 41 is what I've seen but I can't find where they bury this info.

 

[ualdriver]

Thanks. Been to that web site. DOT Form 41 is what I've seen but I can't find where they bury this info.

Well, there's so much information on there that even if you find the data you need, it still needs to be "interpreted." Once in a while, I'll be on there looking for a particular piece of data and I've found that if you e-mail them with EXACTLY what you're looking for, they'll describe to you how you can obtain it.

For example, you're looking for pilot costs per ASM. Well, the denominator of that ratio is pretty easy to find- just go to an airline's "investor relations" section of their main website and look through their latest 10Q and find how many ASM's they flew. You could then go to the BTS.gov website and try to find how out how much a particular airline spent on its total pilot labor costs. Then there's your ratio. It's a lot of work. That's how consultants make their money- being able to pull that data and massage it to make sense. Good luck.