Pilot's Fault For No 900s!

[Tomct]

ASARJ, there are no lines to read between. He simply said that CMR is going to swap out a set number of 100s for 900s. No smoke and mirrors there, simply making a statement that the AP had already made hours earlier. So calm down fly the current contract and hope the CNC can get us a new contract some time in the next decade.

Another "pilot" not getting it? If you can't see the lines that he is talking about....then you are already lost! Every pilot I talked to who "WASTED" their time reading that POS's note...felt the same way. It was a big Scrw You pilots! All other employee's...it is the fault of the pilots that we are getting no growth. He can Eat SH!T for all I care! He is nothing other than a LYING...STEALING...NO GOOD....B@tt L!cking Sack O CRAP!@!!!!:angryfire

 

[DX Rick]

a LYING...STEALING...NO GOOD....B@tt L!cking Sack O CRAP!@!!!!:angryfire

Maybe he and PBRStreetgang could get together and share techniques on the Knuckle Shuffle and Tossing Salad.

 

[av8er2]

I am so sick of this stuff, that is why I am getting out of here.

 

[atlcrjdriver]

If you can't see the lines that he is talking about....then you are already lost!

Lost ... Not in the least. If you don't like what the man has to say then don't read it and don't listen to it. It seems that it wouldn't matter what he says and you would find a way to call it propoganda to find a new reason to call him an a**. I simply don't see any reason to raise my blood pressure for that.

 

[wms]

In the two paragraphs prior he talks about his disappointment with the pilot negotiations and the possible results from the mediator. Then he specifically says that's a good point to segue into OH's order of -900s. Looks like a pretty good link to me. However, it's just the psychological part of negotiations. The pilots don't buy it and no one else understands it anyway. It's meant to quietly sway opinion without making accusations. Like the ship's log entry from the first mate that says the "caption showed up sober this morning." He's never had a drink, but now there's a shadow of doubt because of an entry that really didn't say anything incrimminating. It's empty rhetoric meant to distract us from the facts. This thread is proof that it works, and we shouldn't let it.

 

[atlcrjdriver]

We are all dissappointed that the last few sessions have not resulted in a new contract and the union stated what the next possibilities are already so I skimmed through what BL said in his update. As for the 900s, those were always slated for CVG in DLs continuing reorganization plan.

Again, nothing new was stated.

Its alittle late late in the game to try and sway public opinion ...

 

[ugasucks]

If BL wouldn't have let the ramp become the clusterf$%$# that it is maybe ASA would have gotten that flying. But since he pissed Delta off so bad they had to take away as much control as they could and then give away flying.

 

[John Pennekamp]

Don't you just love the way BL and management try to spin us not getting any 900s because of the pilots? FU Brian! Cut you damn 350K salary, and bonuses, and maybe Delta will give you your 900s then. And Brian's always so quick to post about negoiations so that he can scare pennekamp and Joey merchant, and all you other putzs out there. ASA will survive, and do fine.

Bryan's memos don't scare me. What scares me are chest thumping automaton nazis like you who blindly march in lockstep toward unemployment because Alpa taught you to "read between the lines".

Oh, and btw, I couldn't care less if we see one -900 here or not. I want to see our current flying protected first. Us getting-900s is so far on the horizon, we are better off concentrating on what we've got first, don't you think Mike?

How typical for Alpa chest thumpers to be worring what MIGHT happen someday over what IS happening now. After all, that's good for whipping up the pilots and further raising their expectations.

Pure propaganda.

 

[ASARJMan]

Bryan's memos don't scare me. What scares me are chest thumping automaton nazis like you who blindly march in lockstep toward unemployment because Alpa taught you to "read between the lines".

Oh, and btw, I couldn't care less if we see one -900 here or not. I want to see our current flying protected first. Us getting-900s is so far on the horizon, we are better off concentrating on what we've got first, don't you think Mike?

How typical for Alpa chest thumpers to be worring what MIGHT happen someday over what IS happening now. After all, that's good for whipping up the pilots and further raising their expectations.

Pure propaganda.

Well Wil, you could just insert your name in the above post you made, and it would be your brand of chest thumping now wouldn't it? C'mon, you and JB think you have all the answers and everyone should buy your brand of propaganda right?

 

[VeeOne]

Well Wil, you could just insert your name in the above post you made, and it would be your brand of chest thumping now wouldn't it? C'mon, you and JB think you have all the answers and everyone should buy your brand of propaganda right?

So when all is in line with your view Pennekamp is your best friend- then when things start shaking up and he develops his own idea of what is going on you pawn him off as a JB sympathizer? Get a life and look around at what's going on for yourself- I can't believe you think we are going to be alright with all that we are asking for. If ignorance is bliss, you have to be the happiest person on this board. Get over yourself.

 

[John Pennekamp]

So when all is in line with your view Pennekamp is your best friend- then when things start shaking up and he develops his own idea of what is going on you pawn him off as a JB sympathizer? Get a life and look around at what's going on for yourself- I can't believe you think we are going to be alright with all that we are asking for. If ignorance is bliss, you have to be the happiest person on this board. Get over yourself.

VeeOne, that's the ALPA MO. They love you when you agree with them, and when you dare disagree, they paint you as a fringe wacko. They never are able to actually argue any of your points though.

I think it speaks volumes of their intelligence and self confidence as leaders. And the mindless sheep who blindly follow them like ASARJJetdiMAN

All dissenters will be punished! Zeg Heil!!!

 

[Tarzan]

All dissenters will be punished! Zeg Heil!!!

Seig Heil!

 

[John Pennekamp]

Seig Heil!

Sorry, my German sucks, but you seem to have understood what I meant.

 

[Tarzan]

Sorry, my German sucks, but you seem to have understood what I meant.

LOL, I was agreeing with you.

 

[atlcrjdriver]

If BL wouldn't have let the ramp become the clusterf$%$# that it is maybe ASA would have gotten that flying. But since he pissed Delta off so bad they had to take away as much control as they could and then give away flying.

The ramp situation had very little if anything to with OH recieving the CR9. DL taking over the ramp is more of a way for DL to take control and maintain cost at its biggest most important hub. Why contract ramp ops out when you can do it yourself for less. ASA was actually improving when DL decided to take over.

DL got the cuts they wanted from OH and awarded them the airframe. An important note is these are not growth a/c, simply a swap out 1 for 1. The CR7 we are getting from OH are growth for us as we aren't losing or swapping out anyting yet. The ATR retirement date continues to float with nothing concrete.

Hopefully we will be able to maintain what we have until the CNC can work something out. The best news for us right now would be a proffer from the NMB.