Commuter Policy and one hour call out reserve at Colgan...

[jtrain609]

With da Q coming to Colgan in EWR, which happens to be one of the most flow controlled, delayed ridden, backed up airports in the world, how the heck does management expect the crews to have a decent QOL without a commuter policy and hour call out for reserve?

No way an hour call out would work unless, the crews are living in the employee parking lot with trailers or in a crackhouse in Elizabeth or Newark. We need two hours.

Also without a commuter policy, crews will need to leave like two days before their show or risk 'termination' for a missed trip. With flow and delay issues, not only to mention, full flights, Continental, and ExpressJet pilots trying to get to work, Colgan Pilots NEED to make sure we won't have to worry about our jobs while trying to ride to work.

Colgan Pilots need ALPA to negotiate these issues in a contract.

 

[vectorvictor]

On the bright side, and I speak from first-hand experience, the views from the crack-houses in Elizabeth of the landing planes is breath-taking. I know the policy on the 1 hour call-out is pretty easy going, but I agree I think a two hour call-out with a hard show time is a bit more standard.

 

[Prop2Jet]

forget it

 

[jtrain609]

On the bright side, and I speak from first-hand experience, the views from the crack-houses in Elizabeth of the landing planes is breath-taking. I know the policy on the 1 hour call-out is pretty easy going, but I agree I think a two hour call-out with a hard show time is a bit more standard.

The 1 hour call-out policy is not easy going. Usually it is like..

Crew scheduling... We need you at the airport in a half hour

Colgan Pilot... Ahh, I can be there in an hour

Crew scheduling... Big sigh, you need to be there in a half hour, that is what time your deadhead leaves. We are having you deadhead, ALB-LGA-DCA then a van ride from DCA to IAD, to repo a plane from IAD to HEF, then you have another van ride from HEF to DCA to Deadhead DCA-LGA-BOS. If you miss your flight in a half hour then we are all screwed up...

Colgan Pilot... I can be there in an hour

Crew scheduling... Big sigh again, well see if you can be there earlier.........

 

[Pattern-Master]

When I was on reserve at XJT we had a two hour call out, and it was still hard with all that traffic! And good luck commuting in and out of there with almost half of the base commuting already between CO and XJT crews.

 

[sucit]

With da Q coming to Colgan in EWR, which happens to be one of the most flow controlled, delayed ridden, backed up airports in the world, how the heck does management expect the crews to have a decent QOL without a commuter policy and hour call out for reserve?

No way an hour call out would work unless, the crews are living in the employee parking lot with trailers or in a crackhouse in Elizabeth or Newark. We need two hours.

Also without a commuter policy, crews will need to leave like two days before their show or risk 'termination' for a missed trip. With flow and delay issues, not only to mention, full flights, Continental, and ExpressJet pilots trying to get to work, Colgan Pilots NEED to make sure we won't have to worry about our jobs while trying to ride to work.

Colgan Pilots need ALPA to negotiate these issues in a contract.

get a union and stop draging the rest of the reginals down

 

[DX Rick]

The 1 hour call-out policy is not easy going. Usually it is like..

Crew scheduling... We need you at the airport in a half hour

Colgan Pilot... Ahh, I can be there in an hour

Crew scheduling... Big sigh, you need to be there in a half hour, that is what time your deadhead leaves. We are having you deadhead, ALB-LGA-DCA then a van ride from DCA to IAD, to repo a plane from IAD to HEF, then you have another van ride from HEF to DCA to Deadhead DCA-LGA-BOS. If you miss your flight in a half hour then we are all screwed up...

Colgan Pilot... I can be there in an hour

Crew scheduling... Big sigh again, well see if you can be there earlier.........

Schedulers at ALPA carriers still do the same thing. Just because you have a contract, doesn't mean scheduling honors it. They try slipping things under the carpet on us all the time.

 

[Grey Ghost]

Have fun sitting in traffic while calling crew scheduling from your cellphone hoping they won't fire you! I know that even with a 2 hour callout certain contracts protect you from being stuck in traffic. Just one more reason to Sign those cards!!!

 

[jtrain609]

Schedulers at ALPA carriers still do the same thing. Just because you have a contract, doesn't mean scheduling honors it. They try slipping things under the carpet on us all the time.

Yeah I know. That is why if you know the contract you can call them out on it.

We don't have a contract, yet, so guess what, we can't do crap about it.

 

[Prop2Jet]

hey SUCIT!!!

Drag the others down? Dude get a clue, your airline sucks just as much azz as ours...... Dork

 

[better up here]

and stop draging the rest of the reginals down

Yeah, that's OUR fault.

Dumb a$$.

 

[Kaman]

Perhaps this is why the vast majority of the top third of the seniority list passed on the "Q". EWR is a difficult commute, expensive to live up there for a decent crashpad, 1-hour call-out is unrealistic and VERY LITTLE information regarding pairings, schedule, # of lines, etc... On top of this you are going to have barely out of "Green-on-Green" flying the things with mechanics that are also new to the aircraft and you have a potential mess that is the Colgan Air Q-400 program.

 

[Yodafly]

We well get there when we get there. If they fire us all for late shows they will go out of business due to lack of pilots. They will figure out one hour call out is impossible.

 

[jtrain609]

We well get there when we get there. If they fire us all for late shows they will go out of business due to lack of pilots. They will figure out one hour call out is impossible.

Ahh what happens if they don't fire the 'company brown nosers' who get there when they get there, but the Captain that wrote something up last week that forced a cancellation gets fired for missing the commute in.

One voice, one pilot group, one contract..

ALPA at Colgan...

By the way look for Hot Reserve pay to go bye-bye as we know it...

 

[Grey Ghost]

Are some of you lifers on here saying that Colgan does'nt fire people on the spot for frivilous things? Can you honestly say that? You know your lying if you do! This is an information board! at least do the people a favor that are considering going there at tell them the truth!! Sign the cards! uke:

 

[30West]

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get a union and stop draging the rest of the reginals down

What's a 'reginal'?

What is 'draging'?

I don't understand this remark at all. What language is it written in? I even ran it through Babel Fish and got nothing?

 

[Grey Ghost]

What's a 'reginal'?

What is 'draging'?

I don't understand this remark at all. What language is it written in? I even ran it through Babel Fish and got nothing?

Thats called drunk typing! Just get Bubba to sign the card!

Bhodi, this is your wakeup call! I am an F.B.I agent!
I know, is'nt it wild!!!!!!

 

[dingo222]

What's a 'reginal'?

What is 'draging'?



I don't understand this remark at all. What language is it written in? I even ran it through Babel Fish and got nothing?

it's more like a "vaginal" and draining..... as in his vaginal is drainin from all the complaining............

 

[Mr Wu]

Are some of you lifers on here saying that Colgan does'nt fire people on the spot for frivilous things? Can you honestly say that? You know your lying if you do! This is an information board! at least do the people a favor that are considering going there at tell them the truth!! Sign the cards! uke:

Who have they fired "on the spot for frivilous things?"

 

[70-SS]

Who have they fired "on the spot for frivilous things?"

I've known a few.



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