Pinnacle Training Contract?

[MNPilot135]

Does Pinnacle have a training contract and if so how does it work? Thanks.

 

[MNPilot135]

anyone?

 

[ataopsdave]

no training contract

 

[PCL_128]

Training contracts are unenforceable in right-to-work states, anyway.

 

[JoeMerchant]

Training contracts are unenforceable in right-to-work states, anyway.

Something good about right-to-work states PCL? Right-to-work states have done something ALPA hasn't been able to do....

 

[PCL_128]

Something good about right-to-work states PCL?

That was an inadvertent benefit to labor from legislation that anti-labor lawmakers created to screw us over. Trust me, they didn't intend to give you that loop hole. Right-to-work laws are grossly unfair to America's working class.

 

[JoeMerchant]

That was an inadvertent benefit to labor from legislation that anti-labor lawmakers created to screw us over. Trust me, they didn't intend to give you that loop hole. Right-to-work laws are grossly unfair to America's working class.

Sounds like the free market is making more in-roads than organized unions... Unions have become more corrupt than the corporations they criticize..... Why didn't organized labor achieve this benefit? Why did it take "anti-labor" Republicans to achieve what ALPA failed to achieve....

 

[PCL_128]

Why didn't organized labor achieve this benefit?

Perhaps it has something to do with the fact that 2/3rds of ALPA members don't participate in the political process through the PAC. Or, perhaps it has something to do with former union reps that distract unions from the business at hand with crazy lawsuits and won't stop harping on mistakes that were made a decade ago. Just a thought...

 

[JoeMerchant]

Perhaps it has something to do with the fact that 2/3rds of ALPA members don't participate in the political process through the PAC. Or, perhaps it has something to do with former union reps that distract unions from the business at hand with crazy lawsuits and won't stop harping on mistakes that were made a decade ago. Just a thought...

Maybe because 2/3rds of ALPA members are Conservative Republicans and they tire of hearing how this all the fault of those evil Republicans. Add in 40% of ALPA members who tire of ALPA supporting age 60 and you have a sizeable majority that are simply fed up with ALPA. Many of our problems are self-induced with lack of transportability of seniority and no barriers to entry. Add the scope disaster that we helped to create, and this is hardly the fault of Republicans....

There wouldn't be "crazy lawsuits" if ALPA didn't treat it's regional members as second class citizens and if there wasn't a conflict of interest between regional and mainline interests....

 

[JoeMerchant]

Hey Joe,

Read the title of this thread, look for the words "RJDC, ALPA, Scope, RJ, Duane Woerth, ASA, Comair, and Delta"

I'll give you a minute....

Didn't find them, did you?

That's right, you turned yet another thread in the regional forum into a load of crap.

The members of Flightinfo thank you....

T-Gates,

Nobody is making you read anything on here. If you think it is crap, then I would move on. By the way, it is YOU that brought the words RJDC, RJ, Duane Woerth, ASA, Comair, and Delta into this thread, not me.....

That's right it was you..... congrats.....

 

[PCL_128]

That's right, you turned yet another thread in the regional forum into a load of crap.

The members of Flightinfo thank you....

Hey, I want some credit for that too.

 

[Lear70]

Hey Joe,

Read the title of this thread, look for the words "RJDC, ALPA, Scope, RJ, Duane Woerth, ASA, Comair, and Delta"

I'll give you a minute....

Didn't find them, did you?

That's right, you turned yet another thread in the regional forum into a load of crap.

The members of Flightinfo thank you....

Actually... I thought that was pretty funny.

Training contracts ARE enforceable in right to work states, but it depends on the TYPE of training contract.

If you sign the typical "if you quit you have to pay us" crap, then no, it's not enforceable.

However, some of the smarter companies out there (read less morale) figured out that if you sign a PROMISSORY note for the training, then THAT IS enforceable. I know this from first-hand experience in Texas several years ago when I left Express One right before I got furloughed and they came after me for the promissory note / training contract, even though I'd have been furloughed anyway.

A training contract simply says that they charge you X amount of dollars for the training but they will give you an interest-free loan that is paid back by each month of service until it's paid in full. Leave early, you have a promissory note to pay. Nasty little bit of work, very few people use it, but it's 100% enforceable.

That said, PCL USED to have one on the back of the application form you filled out at your interview (it took a whole page). I haven't seen a recent application to see if it's still there. It's NOT the promissory note type, and was therefore unenforceable. I never heard of them trying to enforce it. I actually refused to sign mine and they hired me anyway.

 

[Rook]

. I actually refused to sign mine and they hired me anyway.

Yeah but your 'interview' was a little different than some of our L70.imp: (bowchickabowchickachickabowbow)

 

[Lear70]

Yeah but your 'interview' was a little different than some of our L70.imp: (bowchickabowchickachickabowbow)

HEY!

Well, ok... but that was the PRE interview.