Loads picking up for ExpressJet Airlines

[ATRCA]

I've got some news for you: We Are A Major Airline.

Not sure how you can really say that. Unless of course you are talking about the whole 1B revenue......blah blah.

Listen, I have been here at XJT 7 yrs. I am proud of the company no doubt. We are the best at what we do and we have a great contract and pretty good mgt.

All that aside, WE ARE NOT A MAJOR in any real sense. No carier operating SJ's is a major in the classic terms. When I was in college and flight instructing I thought often of working at a Major. This aint it! I don't think anyone aspires to RJ flying the rest of their life. This is no slam on us or the job we do.

If the fantasy comes true and XJT places an Airbus/Boeing order in the future and operates those aircraft then maybe. I'm not even so sure I consider B6 a major and they are much further along then we are.........? Yes/No?

 

[ATRCA]

One of the big shots came in the other day and said that the branded op. worst case was set up to LOSE money for 3 yrs. They apparently feel they can carry it for that long and then...................who knows.

All in all, ok I would say. Thanks.

 

[erj-145mech]

All that aside, WE ARE NOT A MAJOR in any real sense. No carier operating SJ's is a major in the classic terms. When I was in college and flight instructing I thought often of working at a Major. This aint it!

By the FAA's definition, XJT is a major. Don't like it, don't agree with it, tough. Want to dispute it, send your pilot certificate back to the FAA and let them know that you're not happy with their definitions, and don't agree with them.

What real sense do you think what makes a major?

 

[Apache 5]

who gives a flying ******************** if we're a major or not?

 

[Skyward]

You're welcome, but so much anger.
What can I tell you? They offered me a job. Happy to be here.
Peace.

No anger, I just truely don't understand your way of thinking.

 

[fried chickens]

By the FAA's definition, XJT is a major. Don't like it, don't agree with it, tough. Want to dispute it, send your pilot certificate back to the FAA and let them know that you're not happy with their definitions, and don't agree with them.

What real sense do you think what makes a major?

When people ask you "who do you work for?" Do you say Continental, United, Delta...

I bet ya if you say XJET, CHQ, SKW, Mesa, ASA, they'll say "Who?" Then you say, I fly for blah blah blah express/connection

 

[Pattern-Master]

As long as my paychecks don't start bouncing, they can call us whatever they want!

 

[propilot1983]

Not sure how you can really say that. Unless of course you are talking about the whole 1B revenue......blah blah.

Listen, I have been here at XJT 7 yrs. I am proud of the company no doubt. We are the best at what we do and we have a great contract and pretty good mgt.

All that aside, WE ARE NOT A MAJOR in any real sense. No carier operating SJ's is a major in the classic terms. When I was in college and flight instructing I thought often of working at a Major. This aint it! I don't think anyone aspires to RJ flying the rest of their life. This is no slam on us or the job we do.

If the fantasy comes true and XJT places an Airbus/Boeing order in the future and operates those aircraft then maybe. I'm not even so sure I consider B6 a major and they are much further along then we are.........? Yes/No?

wow. pointless debate.

 

[BoilerUP]

Not my airline or argument, but flying one's own code is a big step in the direction of being a true "major"...$1B in annual revenue or not aside.

 

[lj1313]

ALWAYS. That is HILARIOUS. "Continental Express" used to be the worst of the worst... don't you guys forget it. Two years from now, TSA, Pinnacle or Mesa could easily be the best operation out there with a change in management. Think Im wrong? Who used to be the president of Continental Express????

JO had NOTHING to do with the turn around of ANY AIRLINE from worst to first. That all occured after his (thankfully) dparture.

And yes I was there before, during and after.

 

[Whiskerbizkit]

Major or not, If you fly RJs, then the public will always consider you a commuter and thats not the image you want when going on your own.

 

[better up here]

Well, after all that, I say good luck. Never met a nicer crew than on those 145's. Always enjoy spending time in one of the most uncomfortable jump seats around...thanks for getting me home.

 

[ratherbeflyen]

My .02 about CASM. If CASM were the dictator of the airline business airbus would have more than ~100 orders for the A380, or how come Northwest and United are the only ones with 747's anymore? If you think CASM is the only reason Xjet will fail then ..... never mind.

 

[Britpilot]

My .02 about CASM. If CASM were the dictator of the airline business airbus would have more than ~100 orders for the A380, or how come Northwest and United are the only ones with 747's anymore? If you think CASM is the only reason Xjet will fail then ..... never mind.

No RASM is important too. I did not predict that XJT will fail, in fact I hope they can make it work.

 

[ATRCA]

By the FAA's definition, XJT is a major. Don't like it, don't agree with it, tough. Want to dispute it, send your pilot certificate back to the FAA and let them know that you're not happy with their definitions, and don't agree with them.

What real sense do you think what makes a major?

Yeah......Ok........sure.

 

[Booker]

By the FAA's definition, XJT is a major. Don't like it, don't agree with it, tough. Want to dispute it, send your pilot certificate back to the FAA and let them know that you're not happy with their definitions, and don't agree with them.

Actually, I think it's DOT's definition. But feel free to send back your certificate anyway, as long as you're senior to me.

 

[N4niner206]

JO had NOTHING to do with the turn around of ANY AIRLINE from worst to first. That all occured after his (thankfully) dparture.

And yes I was there before, during and after.

Precisely... exactly why I said "with a change of management". My point IS that Continental Express would not have turned around (and the pilots would not have their current contract) if JO had still been running the place. So while it is easy to biatch about pilots who work for companies with less savory management and under sub-standard contracts, remember that things can/will/do change. Hopefully a person like JO will someday be banned from running airlines (ala Lorenzo).

 

[ApocketA's_145]

Because they supply feed to the hub. Lose money on the feed, make money on the connection. The original concept of the RJ was to connect smaller cities to the hub which previously had been flown by turbo props.
Continental has reduced it's total 50 seat fleet and will continue to do so in the future. The 50 seat jet was a product of $28 a barrel oil in the early ninties. Continental ordered 275 (with 100 options, that they have not exercised) of the EMBRAER flavour in the guise of Continental Express. They now operate 239 between XJT and CHQ, that would be a fleet reduction.
Delta needed to replace 10 aircraft operating out of LAX, no net gain.
Midwest, who knows, maybe they cannot afford new mainline aircraft.
Compare the CASM of a 50 seat RJ to a 137 seat 737 over a stage length of 300 miles, you will see that the 737 wins by a large margin. The longer the stage lenth the better the CASM number for the 737. As long as the Majors continue to utilize the hub and spoke system they will need feed. However, on shorter stage lengths the turbo prop will make a comeback now that "The all jet fleet" mantra has worn thin. I see Continental will operate Dash 8 aircraft in CLE, makes sense, cheaper, you see. There is is also a scope issue at Continental that prevents it's feeders from operating larger aircraft and right now there is a wait time for 70-100 seat EMBRAER/Bombardier fleet types. XJT's CPA with CAL guaranteed a profit and included fuel. Horizon operates Q400's on the west coast and Frontier will soon operate a few out of DEN. See a trend here?
As the cost of operating a 50 seat RJ's continues to esculate so will they be parked as contracts come to an end. The turbo prop is poised to make a triumphunt return.

wow!! u are dumb!! you could have been working on Wall St. at an investment firm making a base salary of $300,000 and an anual BONUS of $950,000. Instead you choose to be an airline pilot!!! haha. You def know how to analize buddy!!!

 

[Britpilot]

wow!! u are dumb!! you could have been working on Wall St. at an investment firm making a base salary of $300,000 and an anual BONUS of $950,000. Instead you choose to be an airline pilot!!! haha. You def know how to analize buddy!!!

Thanks for the compliments. I do a little investing on the side which, as you point out, pays more than my pilot job.




I just read the numbers, they don't lie.

 

[Avpilot]

I just read the numbers, they don't lie.

Tell that to Enron investors.