LCC Crew News 3/22

[quinnlake]

Was anybody at the pilots crew news with Scott Kirby on the 22nd? I've heard lots of rumors, but nothing is posted on the hub a week later.

 

[trainer8]

Was anybody at the pilots crew news with Scott Kirby on the 22nd? I've heard lots of rumors, but nothing is posted on the hub a week later.

It's not posted yet, but the FA video is up and Kirby was blasted by the FA's for the Shares "migration" debacle.

T8

 

[andym037]

This may sound like a stupid question, but I simply must know... Who is LCC?

 

[trainer8]

This may sound like a stupid question, but I simply must know... Who is LCC?

US Airways :blush:

 

[zasca]

Nothing at all about it. period.

 

[WSurf]

LCC=Lowest Cost Crews!!!!

 

[WSurf]

Was anybody at the pilots crew news with Scott Kirby on the 22nd? I've heard lots of rumors, but nothing is posted on the hub a week later.

Quinnlake!! T8 will tell you that there's no flowthru, and that coming from a 14,000hr Dash 8 guy whos only option to better his career was to go to MDA as an FO. Now he is bitter, and hopes for no chance of any other WO'ed pilots to have a chance of a flowthru to mainline!! So, you better get that app ready for Lynx and get out to Denver on the Q400's!!!

 

[flypixs]

Mr. Surf
you missed the point of the previous posts.
The reason the Townhall meeting is not online yet should be clear. Kirby made statement and got his hands slapped as soon as he got back home to Tempe. I would say they are still trying to figure out how to edit that tape before releasing it.

 

[Beechnut]

What statement is that? What did Kirby say?

 

[WSurf]

Mr. Surf
you missed the point of the previous posts.
The reason the Townhall meeting is not online yet should be clear. Kirby made statement and got his hands slapped as soon as he got back home to Tempe. I would say they are still trying to figure out how to edit that tape before releasing it.

So basically we are back to where we were years ago! Nobody really knows how to run this airline!!!!!

 

[trainer8]

Quinnlake!! T8 will tell you that there's no flowthru, and that coming from a 14,000hr Dash 8 guy whos only option to better his career was to go to MDA as an FO. Now he is bitter, and hopes for no chance of any other WO'ed pilots to have a chance of a flowthru to mainline!! So, you better get that app ready for Lynx and get out to Denver on the Q400's!!!

Nice....now that's a professional reponse. :blush: That's ok WSurf, I got thick skin. Bring it on.

Ooooo Kaaaaay.... back to the thread....

Quinn, I don't know what the details of Kirby's comments were or even if he met with the Pilots. If there was a meeting...and I assume there was 'cause the FA's had their's, it has not been published. The FA video is interesting because Kirby get's buried by one particular FA who puts him on the spot about the responsiblity (or lack of it) of LCC management in the whole Shares migration fiasco.

T8

 

[quinnlake]

What I have heard about the pilots meeting is that Kirby said to "expect a big shake up" at PSA and PDT. I also think Kirby jumped the gun, which is why this meeting is not on the hub.

 

[trainer8]

What I have heard about the pilots meeting is that Kirby said to "expect a big shake up" at PSA and PDT. I also think Kirby jumped the gun, which is why this meeting is not on the hub.

This was released on 3/29 in About US; note the last sentence:

"Meet Robert (Bob) Martens, US Airways’ new senior vice president and president of the Express operation. In his new position, Bob – a 35-year aviation vet – will oversee the USAirways Express program, which consists of 2,300 daily flights and includes nine regional airlines. He will have direct oversight of the airlines’ two wholly owned regional subsidiaries, Piedmont Airlines and PSA Airlines, and will report to President Scott Kirby."

T8​

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[zasca]

kirby was confronted by 4 Piedmont guys and a PSA J4J. Piedmont guys wanted to know ANYTHING about the future. Kirby completely dodged the questions and said "oh, expect some news/decisions in about 2 weeks". Unfortunately that "news" was probably just the new VP of express.... Woopity doo!

 

[WSurf]

Nice....now that's a professional reponse. :blush: That's ok WSurf, I got thick skin. Bring it on.

Ooooo Kaaaaay.... back to the thread....

Quinn, I don't know what the details of Kirby's comments were or even if he met with the Pilots. If there was a meeting...and I assume there was 'cause the FA's had their's, it has not been published. The FA video is interesting because Kirby get's buried by one particular FA who puts him on the spot about the responsiblity (or lack of it) of LCC management in the whole Shares migration fiasco.

T8

Has nothing to do with your think skin! You and Lear personally have a problem with the WO's since you didn't get flowback!! Thats cool, and I understand the bitterness!
But in the back of your mind your hoping that no WO'ed pilots get a flowthru!! Thats cool too!! But for you to say that aint true you don't feel that way, is kinda funny!!

Anyway! Hope it works out for all of us!!!

 

[flypixs]

Mr. Surf,
classic reply. Sounds to me you have no idea what's going on with the flow to AAA. Same goes for Mr. Lake. Do your homework a little better nad you would have the answer already of what was said during the meeting in CLT. Q-lake of all people should know, considering his position.

 

[WSurf]

Mr. Surf,
classic reply. Sounds to me you have no idea what's going on with the flow to AAA. Same goes for Mr. Lake. Do your homework a little better nad you would have the answer already of what was said during the meeting in CLT. Q-lake of all people should know, considering his position.

OKAY... enlighten us Big Boy!!!

 

[quinnlake]

Mr. Surf,
classic reply. Sounds to me you have no idea what's going on with the flow to AAA. Same goes for Mr. Lake. Do your homework a little better nad you would have the answer already of what was said during the meeting in CLT. Q-lake of all people should know, considering his position.

I was not at the meeting in CLT, so I don't know what was said. I know the issues on flow thru, but that's only part of the crew news report. No union rep that I know of was at the crew news meeting.

So, what homework are you talking about?

 

[trainer8]

Has nothing to do with your think skin! You and Lear personally have a problem with the WO's since you didn't get flowback!! Thats cool, and I understand the bitterness!
But in the back of your mind your hoping that no WO'ed pilots get a flowthru!! Thats cool too!! But for you to say that aint true you don't feel that way, is kinda funny!!

Anyway! Hope it works out for all of us!!!

I really don't know what your problem is. This thread is about the LCC Crew News broadcast on theHub. Wsurf, twice now you have interjected a different thread "grinding your axe" about flow through at LCC.

You want to attack me and others? Start your own thread and do it there and quit hi-jacking this one.

T8

 

[WSurf]

I really don't know what your problem is. This thread is about the LCC Crew News broadcast on theHub. Wsurf, twice now you have interjected a different thread "grinding your axe" about flow through at LCC.

You want to attack me and others? Start your own thread and do it there and quit hi-jacking this one.

T8

Nothing personal! And didn't want to hijack the thread! But if you look at any thread about Mainline FlowThru with the Wo's you are there in 2 seconds to tell everyone that it wasn't gonna happen!! Thats my problem!!!

 

[WSurf]

http://thehub.usairways.com/news/crewnews/mar07/032207_CLT_FA/clt_fa_video_032207.htm

Quinn.. there's the crewnews.. just need your password to access!! Its for the FA's but kinda enjoyable watching!!



Kirby got beat up good!!!

 

[quinnlake]

I really don't know what your problem is. This thread is about the LCC Crew News broadcast on theHub. Wsurf, twice now you have interjected a different thread "grinding your axe" about flow through at LCC.

You want to attack me and others? Start your own thread and do it there and quit hi-jacking this one.

T8

Again, I don't know what was said at the crew news report on 3/22, but part of the rumor is that Kirby said 190 F.O. seats not filled by furloughed pilots would be filled by flow through from PSA and PDT, hence WSurf's comments.

 

[trainer8]

Nothing personal! And didn't want to hijack the thread! But if you look at any thread about Mainline FlowThru with the Wo's you are there in 2 seconds to tell everyone that it wasn't gonna happen!! Thats my problem!!!

So, take your problem to another thread. The only time "Mainline flow through with the WO's" came up in here was when you started hijacking the thread. Go away if you can't stay on topic.

T8

 

[GlenQ]

Again, I don't know what was said at the crew news report on 3/22, but part of the rumor is that Kirby said 190 F.O. seats not filled by furloughed pilots would be filled by flow through from PSA and PDT, hence WSurf's comments.

I was there at the meeing, didn't hear that (I think he just said something like how he wouldn't neccesarily be opposed to that), and don't know why it's not on the hub yet...
It was an interesting excange though between the PDT guys and Kirby. He totally dodged their question, when all they were looking for was ANY reason to believe that they'll be around after 2 years, anything at all, even a simple "don't worry". They mentioned loosing 10% of their pilots in the last 2 months and how they need some kind of glimmer of hope, anything at all, but Kirby couldn't even deliver that, nothing, not even any b.s. answer; wasn't very uplifting...next Thurs will make 2 weeks; I hope his "news" to us isn't just the new VP

 

[suupah]

Was anybody at the pilots crew news with Scott Kirby on the 22nd? I've heard lots of rumors, but nothing is posted on the hub a week later.

Hows the beach treating you ?

 

[WSurf]

So, take your problem to another thread. The only time "Mainline flow through with the WO's" came up in here was when you started hijacking the thread. Go away if you can't stay on topic.

T8

Truth must hurt?

And Quinn's question was reguarding the flowthru! The rumor was that Kirby was confronted by several WO'ed pilots and he told them that CEL pilots should recieve letters soon to fill 190 FO postions that none of the APL guys want! Kirby was not for the flowthru but rather preferential hiring, however he told them how it was written in the contract they should expect hearing something in the near future!

Now, I know that rumor really makes you sick!! God Forbid any wo'ed pilots get to sit in the 190 for 41.00hr!!!!

 

[WSurf]

I was there at the meeing, didn't hear that (I think he just said something like how he wouldn't neccesarily be opposed to that), and don't know why it's not on the hub yet...
It was an interesting excange though between the PDT guys and Kirby. He totally dodged their question, when all they were looking for was ANY reason to believe that they'll be around after 2 years, anything at all, even a simple "don't worry". They mentioned loosing 10% of their pilots in the last 2 months and how they need some kind of glimmer of hope, anything at all, but Kirby couldn't even deliver that, nothing, not even any b.s. answer; wasn't very uplifting...next Thurs will make 2 weeks; I hope his "news" to us isn't just the new VP

VP annoucement was the big news!!! lol

 

[flypixs]

Surf, if the VP news is what we were waiting for then this company is on the way out the door. We would have less than 2 years left, because we would park planes in the near future.

 

[WSurf]

Surf, if the VP news is what we were waiting for then this company is on the way out the door. We would have less than 2 years left, because we would park planes in the near future.

Yes! We own 32 or 33 worn our Dash 8's! Kirby stated he wanted to replace CRJ 50 seat flying with Q400's... I believe if we don't hear something soon then this place will slowly downsize and be done by 2010! They sure as hell haven't painted any planes. The first plane was suppose to be painted last march. Two options, a fleet replacement or downsize and shut down!

 

[jellynuts]

A friend of mine from FIT (where I went to school) called me and said there are posted minimums of 250tt/50me for piedmontster in their instructor lounge. This is getting ridiculous now. I keep trying to get people to come over so I can get that $500, but everyone wants to hold out for expressjet or eagle or somewhere with turbofans..... I hope something good happens here because I'm getting sucked in now