Is this possible @ PCL

[Casper]

I don't know how much truth is in this however I spoke with one of our check airman today who does interviews he said that they are so desperate they are interviewing people that have not yet recieved their commercial license and if they make it through the process they are offering a conditional offer of employment which is contingent upon passing their commercial checkride.
Has anyone else heard this ? How much lower can it go ? Or should I say how much more dangerous can it get ?

 

[gnx99]

I hope it's true. Isn't that like how it was 40 years ago, or so?

 

[Flyingdutchman]

bullsh*t

 

[Lazy8]

I don't know about all that. It's my understanding that there isn't a First Officer shortage at Pinnacle. It's a Captain shortage.

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[v1valarob]

I don't know how much truth is in this however I spoke with one of our check airman today who does interviews he said that they are so desperate they are interviewing people that have not yet recieved their commercial license and if they make it through the process they are offering a conditional offer of employment which is contingent upon passing their commercial checkride.
Has anyone else heard this ? How much lower can it go ? Or should I say how much more dangerous can it get ?

Arent they already offering jobs to FUTURE ATP career program grads?

-Rob

 

[Flyer1015]

Those ATP guys are pending completion of the CRJ transition course. They still have (at the minimum), Commercial/Inst/ME.

The lowest mins I've heard of someone getting on with Pinnacle was about 206TT and 20ME (C/I/ME), and that was through Jet U.

 

[BoilerUP]

The lowest mins I've heard of someone getting on with Pinnacle was about 206TT and 20ME (C/I/ME), and that was through Jet U.

Good God that barely meets 141 minimums for a COM license...

 

[flyf15]

Heard that someone recently made it through the whole interview process and ground school at Pinnacle, only to be discovered on his/her oral exam that they did not possess a multi-engine rating. Somehow had slipped through the cracks.

Sad, if true.

 

[Flyingdutchman]

not like 300 hours more around the pattern would make 'm better pilots...

 

[Casper]

I don't know, the guy I spoke with has been here for quite some time and I have talked to him on several occasions he seems like a stand up fellow I don't think he would be the kind of person to gossip.

 

[Flyer1015]

Good God that barely meets 141 minimums for a COM license...

True, and Mesa's PACE program is now down to 200TT. So it's not just PNCL.

 

[lindsaya99]

I hope it's true. Isn't that like how it was 40 years ago, or so?

The only problem is that 40 years ago a newhire might fly right seat in a DC-3, not a jet. Regional captains shouldn't have to be CFI's.

 

[DrewBlows]

The only problem is that 40 years ago a newhire might fly right seat in a DC-3, not a jet. Regional captains shouldn't have to be CFI's.

That DC-3 was a heck of a lot more difficult to fly (from a stick and rudder standpoint anyway) than an RJ.

 

[SIG600]

That DC-3 was a heck of a lot more difficult to fly (from a stick and rudder standpoint anyway) than an RJ.

And from a personal experience stand point I can tell you the power plants on a DC-3 are a HELL of a lot harder to manage than an RJ. Your argument carries no weight lindsay. That said, a 200 hour pilot is going to be worthless to a captain for anything other than folding the gear and making PA announcements.

 

[TurboAWD]

not like 300 hours more around the pattern would make 'm better pilots...

It certainly might.

Turbo

 

[Rez O. Lewshun]

The pilot issue shortage is not a PCL problem or a national problem. It is a global problem.

ICAO has a way to get zero time pilots into large narrow and wide body jets with 250TT. Your competition is global.....

 

[A-Track]

Going back to the original post, there was a guy at the local flight school that I know of who got hired there before having his comm. He then finished his training and then started at 9e with less than 300 hrs.

 

[Casper]

Do you remember his name ? If it is who I think it is he is a captain now.

 

[A-Track]

Don't remember his name off the top of my head, It just happened a few months ago so we're probably not thinking of the same guy. As I don't think he would be a captain yet, but you never know.

 

[Casper]

The way things are going here I would not be surprised.