Delta Basing

[JetFumes]

Just a quick question guys/gals? How long until you can get a SLC or LAX base as a junior dude. Would you be on reserve for the rest of time or not? Thanks.

 

[michael707767]

Just a quick question guys/gals? How long until you can get a SLC or LAX base as a junior dude. Would you be on reserve for the rest of time or not? Thanks.

Slight chance you could get SLC right out of training. For LAX, I would bet you could get it within a year, certainly within two.

What exactly do you mean by your last question?

 

[JetFumes]

Slight chance you could get SLC right out of training. For LAX, I would bet you could get it within a year, certainly within two.

What exactly do you mean by your last question?

Nothing.

 

[michael707767]

Nothing.

I should have said, did you mean would you be on reserve the rest of the time at your old base/equipment?

 

[Truckdriver]

Slight chance you could get SLC right out of training. For LAX, I would bet you could get it within a year, certainly within two.

What exactly do you mean by your last question?

How long would reserve be in SLC on the 88? How long would it take to get SLC 75/6 and how long would reserve be on that once you got it? Finally, how is reserve at the big D these days? Days off, call out times, long/short call, ability to trade days etc.?

 

[ACL65PILOT]

The numbers that are current today will be very skewed as there is a huge ramp up in the training that the advancement is showing. Basically 80-90 88 B F/O openings in ATL. If you were one of the first ones hired this year, you may hold a line by sept. New hires are getting the 763 Domestic. A lot is changing.

 

[michael707767]

How long would reserve be in SLC on the 88? How long would it take to get SLC 75/6 and how long would reserve be on that once you got it? Finally, how is reserve at the big D these days? Days off, call out times, long/short call, ability to trade days etc.?

I don't know how long you would be on reserve in SLC. A long time though. I would guess between a year and two years. To get the 767 in SLC would be about the same amount of time, maybe a bit longer. Then again you never know. I was shocked on this last bid some of the new hires (and we only have about 12 now) got the 767 and 7ER.

What guys think of reserve is a matter of opinion. I think its a pretty good system, but I know some guys don't like it.

Minimum of 12 days off in a 30 day month, 13 off in a 31 day month. On long call your minimum call out is 12 hours. On short call, its not really defined in the contract, but past practice says 2 hours. They can give you up to up[ to 8 short call days in a month. I am not aware of any ability for reserve pilots to trade days off.

Bottom line, with the staffing the way it is right now, you can pretty much bet you will either be sitting short call or flying.

 

[Occam's Razor]

Yeah! Screw those guys! What a bunch of...um...wait....

"Basing"?

Oh...

I thought it was Bashing!

My bad!

 

[Truckdriver]

What guys think of reserve is a matter of opinion. I think its a pretty good system, but I know some guys don't like it.

Minimum of 12 days off in a 30 day month, 13 off in a 31 day month. On long call your minimum call out is 12 hours. On short call, its not really defined in the contract, but past practice says 2 hours. They can give you up to up[ to 8 short call days in a month. I am not aware of any ability for reserve pilots to trade days off.

Bottom line, with the staffing the way it is right now, you can pretty much bet you will either be sitting short call or flying.

Thanks for the info. So your schedule is all long call except up to 8 days of short call per month? Are there seperate lines for the 757 and 767 domestic stuff vs. the international stuff? If so, I would assume the pay difference is the international override. If you get 767 and are on reserve, would you do both international and domestic or do they have seperate lists for both while on reserve? Lots of questions here, just trying to see if the grass really might be greener on the other side.

 

[michael707767]

Thanks for the info. So your schedule is all long call except up to 8 days of short call per month? Are there seperate lines for the 757 and 767 domestic stuff vs. the international stuff? If so, I would assume the pay difference is the international override. If you get 767 and are on reserve, would you do both international and domestic or do they have seperate lists for both while on reserve? Lots of questions here, just trying to see if the grass really might be greener on the other side.

your schedule is all long call unless they give you short call. I did two months in a row without getting a short call. The way the system works, on your last day off you have to check your schedule after 3PM to see if you have a trip on your first on call day. I always had a trip, often a four day trip with five days on call, and I got lucky by not getting a short call on that last on call day. You may get credit for sitting a short call if you end up with a trip on your first on call day...I can't remember how that works. But I would guess most guys sit at least 5 or 6 days of short call each month.

Yes, there are seperate categories for the 75/76 domestic (767 category) and international (7ER category). So, if you get the 767 you are a domestic guy flying the 757 and 767. If you get a 7ER you will fly the 757 and 767 internationally. Then there is the 765 category. Its the 767-400 which is mostly international.

Each category has its own reserves. Typically about 10-15% of the pilots in any category are on reserve.

 

[Tomct]

That's AWESOME that newhires are getting 75/76, 7E and 767-400!

 

[Pat Fabin]

We don't have new-hire training programs for the heavies, however. So its more likely that you'll train on the MD88 or 737 first, then move on to something else as your seniority allows.

Oh yeah, forgot the international operation allows for a 24hr short call period.