Allegiant advice

[crjaviator]

Hello Allegiant flyers,
Looking for a bit of advice. I've been with a regioanl for >4 years, in the upper 1/4 of total seniority but am still a FO. (No turbine PIC) I dropped out of upgrade training last year but have another upgrade opportunity in 2 months. 3500 hours TT with 2900 in jets. I get about 15-18 days off right now but that would drop to about 11-12 after upgrade. I live in Orlando so Sanford is perfect for working at Allegiant.
Got called from Pauline for an interview next week. Naturally, I accepted and will go to the interview but what are your thoughts of changing over from my regional position to Allegiant (if hired) if I'm so close to upgrade now?
I am tired of commuting but don't want to shoot myself in the foot either. Is Allegiant much better, the same or worse than let's say NW airlink? Upgrade time is how long? How does Allegiant treat pilots who are still in the military?

I've also put my application in with NetJets with hopes of an interview within the next 6 months. From what I have been educated so far, NJA is the way to go, but I would like some more opinions from guys that work for Allegiant.
I too am a family man so being home at night is nice.

 

[BRA]

With the SFB base you would be home more at night with AAY then you would with netjets. The other questions are hard to answer, their are just so many details to know. I would think allegiant is better then NW Airlink.

 

[crxpilot]

Upgrades are running about a year, there is a lot of growth opportunity for the airline, especially with the recent IPO. They are currently putting some overnites in LAS for SFB pilots but there are still local lines that will let you sleep at home every nite. The pay is improving and we expect another raise later this year. My opinion, if you are not planning on staying at Allegiant and have higher expectations, you might as well take your upgrade to build your turbine PIC time as that is most important. But if you are looking at Allegiant as a last stop, I guarantee you will like it once you are online. Its a great bunch of pilots and a lot of fun.
My opinion only, your mileage may vary.........!

 

[saabservant]

I, too am wrestling with this issue. nwa just allotted 36 jets to rebuild mesaba's fleet, but still do not see much future here. The only reason anyone stays at mesaba is because you can stay at home. But you are a real sap if you think there isn;t another screwing coming from nwa or msa mgmt. down the line.
I'm strongly leaning towards going to Allegiant, if I can pass the interview and receive an offer. The atmosphere at nwa airlink is so toxic, I'd welcome the chance to enjoy flying again, even if it means moving or commuting.

Besides, the MD-80 is a COOL looking airplane...how automated?
FMS, EFIS? Do the FA's at least smile, and are they mostly pleasant?

 

[chperplt]

Any job is what you make of it.

I've never had more fun than I do here. This is a fun place to work. Come to work, fly your 2,3, or 4 legs and go home.

Our 80s all have FMS... Most have EFIS and they're all a blast to fly. I can't complain about our FAs. Some are sticks in the mud, but most are fun and enjoy their jobs.

 

[Muppets]

Lets do the math.......Allegiant- $41 hr and $1 an hour perdiem...ouch
Upgade.......get a type/PIC time and hopefully more than $41 an hour

The MD is a cool looking aircraft but in your close upgrade situation, something better should be right on the horizon......41 bucks for the MD---sad sad world we live in. Oh yeah, and 24 bucks a day!

 

[Desert1]

Lets do the math.......Allegiant- $41 hr and $1 an hour perdiem...ouch
Upgade.......get a type/PIC time and hopefully more than $41 an hour

The MD is a cool looking aircraft but in your close upgrade situation, something better should be right on the horizon......41 bucks for the MD---sad sad world we live in. Oh yeah, and 24 bucks a day!

Here we go again...

For the slower one's in the back of the class...one more time:

Per Airline Pilot Central, first year FO:

Allegiant....$41
American...$35
United.......$31
US Air.......$25-$39
NWA.........$30

As for second year pay, remember to shift over to the Captain column...

Awesome QOL,...growing fast and the money gets better every year.

D1

 

[chperplt]

Lets do the math.......Allegiant- $41 hr and $1 an hour perdiem...ouch
Upgade.......get a type/PIC time and hopefully more than $41 an hour

The MD is a cool looking aircraft but in your close upgrade situation, something better should be right on the horizon......41 bucks for the MD---sad sad world we live in. Oh yeah, and 24 bucks a day!

Muppets,

I can't slam you too much because you've got a Bruins avatar.. but come on. Get your head out of your ass and think about what you're typing.

 

[crjaviator]

I like your inputs but have a few more questions if don't mind answering. Is upgrade really just a year? You need either tremendous growth or a lot of upper seniority bailing in my observations with airlines. Allegiant is relatively small in comparison to regionals so I wonder about the actual upgrade time. I don't want to be sucker punched again like I was with who I'm with now.
Also-I read a thread about your insurance; a big issue for family guys (no pun) so when does insurance begin? first day of training, after the checkride, or 6 months down the road?
How long does the training last in LAS. How do folks cope with living arrangements if the company doesn't put you in a hotel?
Thanks....

 

[chperplt]

As of March 1st, the most junior captain will have a 11/05 hire date. Upgrade will hover between 18-24 months at the most. Upgrades will be due to expansion and some attrition.

Our medical insurance is on par with every other airline. It starts the 1st day of the month after you start.. Start class on the 23rd of Feb, it starts March 1st.

Crash pads are plentiful and no one seems to have a problem.

 

[A-V-8]

Lets do the math.......Allegiant- $41 hr and $1 an hour perdiem...ouch
Upgade.......get a type/PIC time and hopefully more than $41 an hour

The MD is a cool looking aircraft but in your close upgrade situation, something better should be right on the horizon......41 bucks for the MD---sad sad world we live in. Oh yeah, and 24 bucks a day!

Well don't send your application there. Here is a news flash for you. Not all of us are chasing the money. If you are apply to ABX. Don’t apply to Allegiant. It still cracks me up when someone like you chimes in and blurts out their opinion of what all other pilots should think just because it is what you think. Living at home if you live where Allegiant has bases is huge to some people because they don’t want to commute. Folks that want to see their families every night. Good reason to apply. You on the other hand; just don't apply to Allegiant if that is not what will bring happiness to your life. I on the other hand am counting the hours. When I hit 2900 I am going to go earn my ATP and when I hit 3000 myself and my family hope and pray that Allegiant will see the qualities in me that the want to see in a good first officer candidate. If that makes you mad then hit the ignore button for my name and don’t read any more of my posts.

 

[VAPOR]

Here's one for "Real men of genius"

Lets do the math.......Allegiant- $41 hr and $1 an hour perdiem...ouch
Upgade.......get a type/PIC time and hopefully more than $41 an hour

The MD is a cool looking aircraft but in your close upgrade situation, something better should be right on the horizon......41 bucks for the MD---sad sad world we live in. Oh yeah, and 24 bucks a day!

A Great Lakes pilot knocking Allegiant ...ha! Now we've seen it all! Ha ha!! Open a$$ - insert head! Ha ha!

http://forums.flightinfo.com/showthread.php?p=1183027#post1183027

So please tell us Mr. Puppethead, how did the Allegiant guys miss that HUGE opportunity you've got your hands on at Lakes? You are a captain there? WOW! How is your job search going? How much do they pay at Lakes and why would you want to go to Republic? Better pay? PLEASE LEAD US TO THE LIGHT!

 

[Popeye0537]

What are the west coast bases? I know LAS is one, but is Laughlin one? If your on reserve what is your callout time? I'm pretty sure you guys are CASS....right? I'm tired of commuting and have been kickin around the idea of throwing in an ap.

 

[chperplt]

LAS, IFP, and RNO

1 hour reserve call out...

CASS... yes

 

[Vegas Flyer]

A Great Lakes pilot knocking Allegiant ...ha! Now we've seen it all! Ha ha!! Open a$$ - insert head! Ha ha!

http://forums.flightinfo.com/showthread.php?p=1183027#post1183027

So please tell us Mr. Puppethead, how did the Allegiant guys miss that HUGE opportunity you've got your hands on at Lakes? You are a captain there? WOW! How is your job search going? How much do they pay at Lakes and why would you want to go to Republic? Better pay? PLEASE LEAD US TO THE LIGHT!

Wait Vapor, using Muppet"s criteria of judging a "pilot's worth or respect" strictly by pay/hr and equipment type:

At Great Lakes CA's are paid $41/hr... after 7 years.

Thats on the Bra, but not the 1900. CA on the 1900 tops out at $35/hr... after 9 years. See link below:

http://airlinepilotcentral.com/airlines/regional/great_lakes.html

Nice find on the other thread, there's sweet karmic justice seeing a loudmouth get smacked in the face and choking on their own words.

Next time, maybe he will think twice, at the least, once.

 

[crjaviator]

Ok guys...Message boards are usually not my cup of tea just because of all the bashing going on.

chperplt, bra, desert1, crxpilot...I respect your opinions and inputs. Anyway I can talk to you personally without the "non-advisors" out there.

 

[Muppets]

Got the call from SWA
no more republic for me......sorry

 

[meatwallet]

Wait Vapor, using Muppet"s criteria of judging a "pilot's worth or respect" strictly by pay/hr and equipment type:

At Great Lakes CA's are paid $41/hr... after 7 years.

Thats on the Bra, but not the 1900. CA on the 1900 tops out at $35/hr... after 9 years. See link below:

http://airlinepilotcentral.com/airlines/regional/great_lakes.html

Nice find on the other thread, there's sweet karmic justice seeing a loudmouth get smacked in the face and choking on their own words.

Next time, maybe he will think twice, at the least, once.

Not trying to defend GLA at all, but those rates and perdiem are still the old contract numbers. Don't believe everything on airlinepilotcentral!

 

[CaptainSpaz]

Not trying to defend GLA at all, but those rates and perdiem are still the old contract numbers. Don't believe everything on airlinepilotcentral!

Why don't you let airlinepilotcentral know so it can be updated? I there is a link now right on each airlines' page.

 

[inthegoo]

uh huh

A Great Lakes pilot knocking Allegiant ...ha! Now we've seen it all! Ha ha!! Open a$$ - insert head! Ha ha!

http://forums.flightinfo.com/showthread.php?p=1183027#post1183027

So please tell us Mr. Puppethead, how did the Allegiant guys miss that HUGE opportunity you've got your hands on at Lakes? You are a captain there? WOW! How is your job search going? How much do they pay at Lakes and why would you want to go to Republic? Better pay? PLEASE LEAD US TO THE LIGHT!

Got the call from SWA
no more republic for me......sorry

yeah puppetboy that's what we were thinking happened to a bottomfeeder like you

"good job" making that very hard decision between Great Lakes, Republic, Skywest and SWA - it must have been so difficult for you

how did you do it? you retard

next time you take a dump make sure your mouth isn't under your butt