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Lee Moak and Dalpa, working all of the angles

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Transportation
Pilot Union Chief: Delta Won't Deal
By Ted Reed
TheStreet.com Staff Reporter
1/18/2007 3:01 PM EST
URL: http://www.thestreet.com/newsanalysis/transportation/10333310.html




The hostile bid to take over Delta (DALRQ) has triggered a battle between Wall Street and Congress, says Lee Moak, the head of the carrier's pilot union.

Delta pilots have joined with the airline's management to resist the offer by US Airways (LCC) , which has said it will pay $10.2 billion in cash and stock for the Atlanta-based carrier.

"Wall Street types say it is simply a financial transaction and it is the American way," Moak said in an interview. "But in the Senate, what comes out of there is 'Are we going to let Wall Street set public policy on airlines?' They think they should have more control and Wall Street thinks they should have less control."

Moak, the chairman of Delta's Air Line Pilots Association chapter, has been lobbying senators on his opposition to the merger.

Delta pilots picketed Thursday at 520 Madison Ave. in New York, site of the offices of Jefferies & Co., an investment banking firm that advises a group of creditors who have urged consideration of the hostile bid.

"We're sending a message to Jefferies & Co. that Wall Street may be blinded by the money being thrown around in this merger, but we are going to kill [it] and emerge as a standalone carrier," Moak said.

Moak denied rumors that he intends to meet with US Airways CEO Doug Parker, although he said he may run into Parker on Jan. 24, when the Senate Commerce Committee has scheduled a hearing on the potential impact of airline mergers and industry consolidation. Moak noted that Parker, like him, has been meeting with senators.





I guess you have to work all of the angles for safety sake. And, it doesn't look like Moak wants to do any negotiating with Parker. Interesting!


Bye Bye--General Lee
 
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Transportation
Pilot Union Chief: Delta Won't Deal
By Ted Reed
TheStreet.com Staff Reporter
1/18/2007 3:01 PM EST
URL: http://www.thestreet.com/newsanalysis/transportation/10333310.html




The hostile bid to take over Delta (DALRQ) has triggered a battle between Wall Street and Congress, says Lee Moak, the head of the carrier's pilot union.

Delta pilots have joined with the airline's management to resist the offer by US Airways (LCC) , which has said it will pay $10.2 billion in cash and stock for the Atlanta-based carrier.

"Wall Street types say it is simply a financial transaction and it is the American way," Moak said in an interview. "But in the Senate, what comes out of there is 'Are we going to let Wall Street set public policy on airlines?' They think they should have more control and Wall Street thinks they should have less control."

Moak, the chairman of Delta's Air Line Pilots Association chapter, has been lobbying senators on his opposition to the merger.

Delta pilots picketed Thursday at 520 Madison Ave. in New York, site of the offices of Jefferies & Co., an investment banking firm that advises a group of creditors who have urged consideration of the hostile bid.

"We're sending a message to Jefferies & Co. that Wall Street may be blinded by the money being thrown around in this merger, but we are going to kill [it] and emerge as a standalone carrier," Moak said.

Moak denied rumors that he intends to meet with US Airways CEO Doug Parker, although he said he may run into Parker on Jan. 24, when the Senate Commerce Committee has scheduled a hearing on the potential impact of airline mergers and industry consolidation. Moak noted that Parker, like him, has been meeting with senators.





I guess you have to work all of the angles for safety sake. And, it doesn't look like Moak wants to do any negotiating with Parker. Interesting!


Bye Bye--General Lee

And this new? GL this deal is dead. I say this because we have
heard absolutely zip from the Creditors Committee. Zip. One would imagine some sort of press release if they were even slightly interested in DP's new offer...
Andy
 
I think the other way. I am a little worried that there is not more info coming out. Everyone is just a little to quiet this time around.....

It is a bad deal, but some just want their money. They do not care about the future of the carrier.
 
I think the other way. I am a little worried that there is not more info coming out. Everyone is just a little to quiet this time around.....

It is a bad deal, but some just want their money. They do not care about the future of the carrier.

You need to know who is on the committee and what their motivations are. Some want a long term relationship and think they could make more money that way. Some don't care and want their money now. The thing is, if this deal were to go through, it could take longer to get their money, due to DOJ scrutiny, etc. It took 14 months for the DOJ to recommend (thanks Marko Ramius) or sue the US and UA parties into not doing the merger. I just don't think Parker would loan any money to creditors now, and then ask for it back when it is turned down.

As far as news coming out, they are probably waiting for the Senate hearings, and of course the Feb 1 drop dead date set by Parker. If nobody responds, what does that mean? It appeared to me that Bethune wasn't so enthusiastic about this particular merger, even though he would like to see consolidation of some sort.


I am looking forward to seeing what Parker says at the hearing. Scott Kirby will be right behind him probably, whispering what he should say....


Bye Bye--General Lee
 
I agree with you on who is on the comittee. The big three are DALPA, Coke and Boeing. Those three are all looking long term. I do know this, and I sure hope that you are correct. Long term it is a bad deal for the investors as well. It would be the biggest carrier for about two days and then it would be about number three with a whole bunch of over lap, and debt burden.
 
I agree with you on who is on the comittee. The big three are DALPA, Coke and Boeing. Those three are all looking long term. I do know this, and I sure hope that you are correct. Long term it is a bad deal for the investors as well. It would be the biggest carrier for about two days and then it would be about number three with a whole bunch of over lap, and debt burden.

There are two more that are significant. GE (Pratt) and the PBGC. GE will supply all of the engines for the large order we just made. I have a feeling we "buttered their muffin." The other is the PBGC. Why would they care? Well, we have all of the other employees (non union) still getting their pensions. Would that survive if Parker took over? I highly doubt that, and the PBGC doesn't want to take on 40,000 more pensions. I am pretty sure none of the USAir Employees (except Parker and some managment people) have pensions after 2 BK's. That would be 5 out of the 9 on the committee. A couple of the others may be lessors, and they might be able to be swayed. They all asked Bethune for his recommendation of the proposals, and so far, from what I have read, he hasn't been enthusiastic about this particular merger. He has stated he wants consolidation, but not every marriage is a good one.


Bye Bye--General Lee
 

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