cal system bid out w/pilot reduction

[tie1on]

system bid is out with less pilots on it than the last bid. The incredible shrinking airline. don't get pbs. they have more retirements than new hires

 

[Hutchman]

The min. # was the same. 392 vacancies. Why would the Staffing go up? The only airplanes we are getting were accounted for in the last bid.

 

[Uniform Shop]

Don't let the title fool you. They are still hiring a lot. They just aren't adding more pilots to the seniority list on this bid. We only have 2 777's coming this year but we have a ton of 737's coming next year. This was to be expected.

I can't figure out how to cut and paste the bid but it has a total of 392 vacancies for both CA and FO in all bases.

142 CA openings
250 F/O openings

 

[tie1on]

where is the 6-7% growth if a reduction is happening?

 

[Uniform Shop]

I think it's from better utilization of crew's (PBS) and aircraft. They say CAL is still going to grow about 3-5% this year but not through additional aircraft.

I agree that PBS did eliminate the need for some pilots but it wasn't as drastic as we originally thought. Although, I would love to change the PBS system and go with one that has proven itself (Like TWA's old system) instead of this piece of crap.

 

[JohnQ]

I think it's from better utilization of crew's (PBS) and aircraft. They say CAL is still going to grow about 3-5% this year but not through additional aircraft.

I agree that PBS did eliminate the need for some pilots but it wasn't as drastic as we originally thought. Although, I would love to change the PBS system and go with one that has proven itself (Like TWA's old system) instead of this piece of crap.

At DAL we have the follow on to TWA's old system (the old AirWare product, not AdOpt)--NavTech's CLASSbid. I have worked on various PBS issues at DAL for over a year, and while nothing is perfect, most guys are pretty happy with it. And usually when there are problems, it stems more from company crew planning (or lack of it) rather than the software itself.

I was trading emails a few weeks ago with another guy who has REALLY worked a lot on PBS. In fact he actually was one of the ALPA guys who interviewed the various vendors, etc. He told me that CAL was not very happy with the product they went with. "We tried to warn them" was his note to me. I think if you could convince your union and company to at least try the Navtech product, that you might be happier.

 

[thor2j]

I think the pilots of CAL would prefer to throw darts at for their sequences then put up with this PBS system!!!

 

[MCDU]

CAL is getting ready to merge with United. I think their might be furloughs or some stagnation. Where would a 1993 DOH put me at CAL.

Marty

 

[Plug]

CAL is getting ready to merge with United. I think their might be furloughs or some stagnation. Where would a 1993 DOH put me at CAL.

Marty

Gosh, talk about flame bait!

 

[General Lee]

Seriously, why would CAL want to negotiate early with you guys or extend the current contract? Any reasons you can think of? You all know already that airlines are supposed to be more profitiable in the upcoming years. Why would they want to negotiate now, including pay raises etc.?


Bye Bye--General Lee