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Nobody wants to fly an airbus for 60-70 an hour as a captain. There are too many other GOOD airlines out there hiring.
 
Say "Hi" to Dave T for me! Actually, if you want to express my true feelings, you should kick him in the nuts if he has any.
 
AAPilot said:
"Airtran"? Are you kidding me? Value jet? If you would say fex ex, cal, or ups maybe but Value Scabs?
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The're not Valuejet anymore. And I do put them up there with Fedex. Most Captains I've talked to while flying or jumpseating on regionals seem to be split on FedEx or Airtran as far who they want to work for.
 
instructordude said:
The're not Valuejet anymore. And I do put them up there with Fedex. Most Captains I've talked to while flying or jumpseating on regionals seem to be split on FedEx or Airtran as far who they want to work for.
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Dude,

Almost all your posts smack of flame-bait.

Enjoy,

AAflyer
 
instructordude said:
For low time guys it could be a good way to get PIC time in order to qualify for cream of the crop jobs at Airtran or FedEx.
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Until enough "low time guys" fill jobs like this and the management of the "cream" carriers suddenly use a financial snapshot of the "competition" as the basis of their new labor costs going forward in future negotiations/compensation offereings.

Lowering the bar... the race to the bottom... call it what you want.

The RJ at Delta was the 1st to allow management to "lower the bar" on many narrowbody flying jobs at the mainline. There are more vlock hours flown now at the express division than at many of the mainline companies themselves. It's like half of the school is staffed by substitute teachers.

(Sarcasm on) But hey... I'm sure those guys are happy to just be building PIC time... you know... for the next step. (Sarcasm off).

There is more to life than flying... like life. Don't let the bean counters of the world (what management has become) tell you otherwise. $70/hour is far too low compensation for the command seat of an airliner (of any size). Right seat? Still low.

If the company (SkyBus or whatever it's called) can't afford the prevailing wage for pilots (and it's waaay low right now anyway), it has a faulty business plan, should not be in business and should not be allowed to affect the profession in a such negative way by causing competetive salary comparison analysis bargaining... against pilots.

Stick a sword in that pig.
 
AAflyer said:
Dude,

Almost all your posts smack of flame-bait.

Enjoy,

AAflyer
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I think my posts are positive. Around here, some folks are negative so as the saying goes negative and positive repel!

As far as Airtran is concerned I'm just paying them a compliment, even if it is worthless from someone like me. Although, the compliment is in line with what folks have told me; they are the number one pick of a lot folks.
 
instructordude said:
I think my posts are positive. Around here, some folks are negative so as the saying goes negative and positive repel!

As far as Airtran is concerned I'm just paying them a compliment, even if it is worthless from someone like me. Although, the compliment is in line with what folks have told me; they are the number one pick of a lot folks.
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Remember that probably 70% of the guys flaming skybus probably already have a resume in there or virgin america , xtra jet, sun country, gemini or some other operator that pays crap yet has an endless supply or ready willing and able pilots..

Kind of like the guy in the rt seat of a regional blasting a guy for going to southwest and buying his type rating
 
clickclickboom said:
Remember that probably 70% of the guys flaming skybus probably already have a resume in there or virgin america , xtra jet, sun country, gemini or some other operator that pays crap yet has
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Doesn't this thread belong in the Regional or Student Pilot section?
 
the only bad part instructor dork put Airtran in just so we would hijack this useless thread about a airline that pays 60 bucks an hour.

the other bad part he is sitting in his moms room popping his zits laughing that some guys like all american would take the bait.

all american, I am probably flying with as many furloghed american pilots as you are. If your airline ever furloughs again make sure you tell the junior pilots that the airline is Airtran. yes we have them but many have a he11 of allot more than we do.

enjoy
 
Fly4hire said:
Doesn't this thread belong in the Regional or Student Pilot section?
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ROFLMAO!!!

I work at AirTran.

I wouldn't put it on par with a FedEx or SWA job in terms of compensation.

I WOULD put it on par with ANY other major in terms of Quality of Life. Trip rigs, duty rigs, days off, and commutable pairings are ALL top-notch. I have 21 days off at guarantee this month, a lot of other jobs (including Skybus more than likely) probably WORK 21 days in a 31-day month.

That said, Skybus DOES have my resume and yes, they called me. I put my resume in the first AIR, Inc job fair they went to before they announced their compensation.

I politely told them until they roughly doubled their Captain pay, I wasn't likely to leave AirTran (and probably wouldn't even then for an unknown in terms of job stability - I'm married with kids, can't afford that kind of risk).

For an RJ guy, it's a step up. Unfortunately, it's stepping ON all the majors as they step up into that Airbus. :(
 
Oh I knew YOU weren't...

I was talking to all the guys who spoke up bashing AirTran as being on par with FedEx.

:)
 
FLYLOW22 said:
$70/hour is far too low compensation for the command seat of an airliner (of any size).
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Really? I highly doubt you were getting paid $70 an hour to command that Beech 1900 you have listed in your profile. I'm guessing you made about 1/3 of that. But now that you are flying the big boys you get up on your high horse and tell everyone else that they shouldn't? Hypocrite!
 
Lear70 said:
I politely told them until they roughly doubled their Captain pay, I wasn't likely to leave AirTran (and probably wouldn't even then for an unknown in terms of job stability - I'm married with kids, can't afford that kind of risk).

:(
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What was their response?
 
AAPilot said:
"Airtran"? Are you kidding me? Value jet? If you would say fex ex, cal, or ups maybe but Value Scabs?
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I'm glad I spent the last five years at AirTran instead of at American, I'll tell you that. . . . . . I've had plenty of American furloughees flying in the right seat with me who have been treated better by "Value Scab", as you call it, than by your airline.

I guess an added bonus is that they got to fly with me instead of sit reserve with you.:laugh:
 
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instructordude said:
I think my posts are p ositive. Around here, some folks are negative so as the saying goes negative and positive repel!

As far as Airtran is concerned I'm just paying them a compliment, even if it is worthless from someone like me. Although, the compliment is in line with what folks have told me; they are the number one pick of a lot folks.
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You crack me up . . . . but you are a very, very bad man. :rolleyes:


.
 
capt. megadeth said:
What was their response?
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They said they'd cut me a "special deal"... they'd double the pay if I volunteered to be in their initial "single pilot" waiver group from the FAA. ;)

Seriously though, it was a VERY short conversation after that point, I think she initially thought I was kidding. She was very polite and so was I, but I simply said they just didn't pay what an Airbus crew should make, borderline less than an RJ Captain's acceptable pay rate. She said thanks for my time, and that was it.

I got the distinct impression they had PLENTY of resumes to choose from and weren't all that concerned. :rolleyes:
 
Ty Webb said:
I'm glad I spent the last five years at AirTran instead of at American, I'll tell you that. . . . . . I've had plenty of American furloughees flying in the right seat with me who have been treated better by "Value Scab", as you call it, than by your airline.

I guess an added bonus is that they got to fly with me instead of sit reserve with you.:laugh:[

I know, i know Ty value jet is the best and yes you are a captain, that is great. We all have various opinions on the subject as I know many guys who went to value jet in the 90's with 2500 total and no degree. I however always wanted to fly a heavy international, which I will once recalls have occured and I will retire in the top 50 at AA. Good luck to you and your future.
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hoover said:
Really? I highly doubt you were getting paid $70 an hour to command that Beech 1900 you have listed in your profile. I'm guessing you made about 1/3 of that. But now that you are flying the big boys you get up on your high horse and tell everyone else that they shouldn't? Hypocrite!
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Thanks for the opinion but... a few major differences... just from my perspective.

The BE1900 operator I flew for was a Turbine Whorehouse. We knew this going in. We were told this going in. "Get your time and get the hell out ASAP" was our motto. It was NEVER designed to be a career job flying career aircraft. We were never used to replace a B727 that had just retired or placed on a B737 route simply because "the route failed to show improvement over the past year".

I took that job knowing it was a good way to build quality time and get onto something better with PIC turbine.

We served markets no one else would or wanted meaning our flight operations did not impact mainline career expectations.

The years I was flying the BE1900 were the years that the RJ was just beginning to get a stranglehold on mainline jobs.

Going forward, if the market gets flooded with crap operators paying crap wages, there will be few places to "move on" to in the future... oh wait... that already happened. Now one cane psend 30 years "paying dues". Oh happy day.

And besides that, everyone knows that a BE1900 "Airliner" is a marketing term. The 1900 isn't even Part 25 Certified! Sheesh. ;)

What exactly is a "Big Boy"?

The point of my post was to illustrate how management uses other pilot groups wages flying similar equipment to pattern bargain pay rates down on their homefront. No more, no less.

Take the red pill Neo. It will iberate you.
 
.....skybus

I had an interview with them this week in Columbus...it was interesting.
Not for a pilot position though.
 
millhouse21 said:
Say "Hi" to Dave T for me! Actually, if you want to express my true feelings, you should kick him in the nuts if he has any.
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Now Gojet pilots will actually have a place to go, to bad they will make the same amount of money.

But they are hiring into the left seat, which is the only reason DT went there.
 
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