UPS Interview??

[Wile]

Just curious how long it takes to get called for an interview? I have two letters of recommendation in, both from 14-16 year Captains. I have heard that there is a backlog on training. Any info would be appreciated.

 

[MCDU]

If you are a chick with no PIC Jet time, they will call fairly quickly. Otherwise it will take a while.

Marty

 

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If you are a chick with no PIC Jet time, they will call fairly quickly. Otherwise it will take a while.

Marty

And if you have Air Force/Navy/Marines or Coast Guard turboprop time with no jet PIC you still get hired over civilians with jet pic time.

 

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Just curious how long it takes to get called for an interview? I have two letters of recommendation in, both from 14-16 year Captains. I have heard that there is a backlog on training. Any info would be appreciated.

Takes anywhere from a week to years and years; depends on whether you have international and heavy experience, on your recommendations, your total time, recency, pic time, etc., etc., and you also gotta have lots of luck. Do not want to discourage you but I applied in August 1998, kept updating every 3 months or so, even when they weren’t hiring, I applied online as soon as they switched to electronic application and kept updating regularly. 4 line pilot recommendations, 1 management. Went to 6 AirInc seminars and 1 women-in-aviation seminar (I’m not a woman ) throughout the years. All of a sudden called for an interview last summer, then a medical 3 days later and a class the following week. If it wasn’t for the support of my friends and their continuous encouragements, it wouldn’t have happened. Just be ready - because when it does happen you won’t have much time to catch up with your paperwork and practice interview questions and handflown ILSs. At least so I’ve heard

Good luck!

And if you have Air Force/Navy/Marines or Coast Guard turboprop time with no jet PIC you still get hired over civilians with jet pic time.

At FedEx absolutely! At UPS I think they are much more about heavy international experience (which in effect “favors” military backgrounds) than whether you were military or civilian. But also, I think they are much more diverse than most airlines when it comes to hiring from different backgrounds. In my class there were pilots from: Air Force, Navy, National Guard, 121 regional, 121 LCC, furloughed 121 Major, furloughed 121 Legacy, 135 feeder, corporate pilot (GIV) and a fractional pilot (threw boxes for UPS 5 years prior). The corporate pilots and the 135 pilot had no 121 or military backgrounds, I think it’s great they were able to come to UPS, doubt FedEx or other majors would give them a chance.

 

[bustinmins]

I had my application on file for five years. Within two weeks of securing my third recommendation and updating monthly for three months - I got the invite to Louisville. I don't know if the updating monthly had anything to do with it but another friend had the same recommendations and updated monthly and got the call three months before I did. I began updating monthly immediately after his invitation. It could have been our recommendations or it could have been the monthly thing. Who knows - but if you do the monthly update - you're putting one piece of the puzzle together that I think will work.

Best of luck to you my friend....

 

[bustinmins]

Of course, if you attend the Women in Aviation conference and you happen to BE a woman - your odds are significantly higher.

 

[capt. megadeth]

Of course, if you attend the Women in Aviation conference and you happen to BE a woman - your odds are significantly higher.

Odds are pretty good if you are a guy and go to Chicks in Planes. I know 3 that went last year and got hired at UPS....that is unless you are too macho to go.

 

[⌐⌐⌐⌐⌐]

Of course, if you attend the Women in Aviation conference and you happen to BE a woman - your odds are significantly higher.

Maybe not? I went to Nashville conference last year along with 4 friends. 2 guys and 3 ladies; I got a call for UPS and one lady got a call from SWA (unfortunately she didn't get hired.) All of us upgraded in about the same time frame so our flight times were fairly similar; I had maybe 1,000 hours more in total time than the others, however they had more pic time than me (at least 1,000 hrs more). I agree with Mega, odds are good for guys who go to the WAI conference too. I almost think that being a guy at the WAI was to my advantage as there were not that many of us so maybe we were easier to be remembered by the HR folks? I don’t know, but I’m now rooting for my friends to come over to big brown. Either way, WAI conference is WAY better than AirInc (I know – I’ve been to 6 AirInc seminars!). More airlines attending but most of all better structure and you have three days of actual face-to-face conference vs. one day at AirInc.

 

[Big Beer Belly]

Just curious how long it takes to get called for an interview? I have two letters of recommendation in, both from 14-16 year Captains. I have heard that there is a backlog on training. Any info would be appreciated.

Takes anywhere from a week to years and years; depends on whether you have international and heavy experience, on your recommendations, your total time, recency, pic time, etc., etc., and you also gotta have lots of luck. Do not want to discourage you but I applied in August 1998, kept updating every 3 months or so, even when they weren’t hiring, I applied online as soon as they switched to electronic application and kept updating regularly. 4 line pilot recommendations, 1 management. Went to 6 AirInc seminars and 1 women-in-aviation seminar (I’m not a woman ) throughout the years. All of a sudden called for an interview last summer, then a medical 3 days later and a class the following week. If it wasn’t for the support of my friends and their continuous encouragements, it wouldn’t have happened. Just be ready - because when it does happen you won’t have much time to catch up with your paperwork and practice interview questions and handflown ILSs. At least so I’ve heard

Good luck!

And if you have Air Force/Navy/Marines or Coast Guard turboprop time with no jet PIC you still get hired over civilians with jet pic time.

At FedEx absolutely! At UPS I think they are much more about heavy international experience (which in effect “favors” military backgrounds) than whether you were military or civilian. But also, I think they are much more diverse than most airlines when it comes to hiring from different backgrounds. In my class there were pilots from: Air Force, Navy, National Guard, 121 regional, 121 LCC, furloughed 121 Major, furloughed 121 Legacy, 135 feeder, corporate pilot (GIV) and a fractional pilot (threw boxes for UPS 5 years prior). The corporate pilots and the 135 pilot had no 121 or military backgrounds, I think it’s great they were able to come to UPS, doubt FedEx or other majors would give them a chance.

Good for you (5 blocks, or "he who wishes not to be named", or maybe you're the guy formerly known as 6 blocks? )

Anyway, I love to hear "perseverance pays off" stories. I'm truly glad for you.

As far as UPS hiring... from a management source... UPS essentially hires pilot applicants from various backgrounds in proportion to the percentage those backgrounds are represented in the total applicant pool. IOW, if 50% of the applicants have military backgrounds then approximately 50% of the new hires will also. They are VERY conscious of past EEOC rulings and hire pilots with diverse backgrounds according to an objective and legally defensible formula. (As an aside, I recall reading a number of years ago that females accounted for just 5% of all ATP certificate holders.)

In the FWIW category, I heard through the grapevine (uh oh, here comes another rumor ) that UPS is telling recent new hire classes (perhaps someone can confirm) they are seeking to hire 400 in '07 (that would be a record and I don't believe UPS has the training capacity for that many) and 250 in '08.

BBB

 

[L'il J.Seinfeld]

Good for you (5 blocks, or "he who wishes not to be named", or maybe you're the guy formerly known as 6 blocks? )

Anyway, I love to hear "perseverance pays off" stories. I'm truly glad for you.

As far as UPS hiring... from a management source... UPS essentially hires pilot applicants from various backgrounds in proportion to the percentage those backgrounds are represented in the total applicant pool. IOW, if 50% of the applicants have military backgrounds then approximately 50% of the new hires will also. They are VERY conscious of past EEOC rulings and hire pilots with diverse backgrounds according to an objective and legally defensible formula. (As an aside, I recall reading a number of years ago that females accounted for just 5% of all ATP certificate holders.)

In the FWIW category, I heard through the grapevine (uh oh, here comes another rumor ) that UPS is telling recent new hire classes (perhaps someone can confirm) they are seeking to hire 400 in '07 (that would be a record and I don't believe UPS has the training capacity for that many) and 250 in '08.

BBB

Tonight's rumor at the sort was that UPS is haggling with Rolls Royce about buying back the engines so as to pull out the 727's from the desert. UPS sold the engines back to RR when the planes were sent to Roswell and is now prepared to buy them back. The need for more lift is obvious, but it's anyone's guess where they'll get it.

 

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Good for you (5 blocks, or "he who wishes not to be named", or maybe you're the guy formerly known as 6 blocks?) Anyway, I love to hear "perseverance pays off" stories. I'm truly glad for you.

BBB - Thank you very much; I still can’t believe it actually happened. I know some guys at UPS who’ll be getting free Starbucks coffee for life!

Yeah, the “blocks” were supposed to look like “boxes” buy I guess it doesn’t really look that great, oh well…

I think one can have many views on the “hiring pool” etc, but I think it’s great we have so many different backgrounds at UPS. I am not talking minorities, etc, just military vs. civilian, 121, vs. 135, vs. 91, etc, etc. It’s amazing, every time I talk to someone about his or her background I find out aspects of aviation I’d never even heard of before. The other day I talked to a pilot who spent 10 years at NASA flying astronauts on “No Gravity” - practice missions. Of course, I’m sure there are really unique pilots at each airline; I just think it’s great we have such a large mix of different backgrounds here, that’s all.

Wile – keep updating, find good sponsors, attend as many job fairs you can think of and it’ll happen! Good luck!

 

[LeonPhelps]

Women in Aviation?

So, I understand that you fellas felt that you had better chances of "getting lucky" at a Women in Aviation conference? Now, that's a relief...keep up the good work boys!!!

 

[V2plus25]

I'm not holding my breath for UPS to get some more RR's to get some 72's out fo the desert. MX for one doesn't want the heachache to keep the planes flying. My bet is the -8 or A300 will be filling the need. The 727 rules, but the RR mod really blows. Bring back the 727-200's with the std JT8's! Tay's blow!

 

[sgu]

I was able to score an interview after 6 years of pursuit. I had one LOR from a line pilot and several air inc career fair appearances. With disappointment, I fell short of my goal and recieved a regret letter. I'll go find a job that has heavy int'l time and reapply. I know I'll be back. It hurts like hell now but it'll be that much sweeter when I do make it. Good luck.

 

[1800 RVR]

sgu,

Sorry to hear that you got the "letter." It is anyone's guess to what UPS is looking for. It seems to be like DaVinci's code - no one can break it! Hang in there. What ever happened to World? Did they ever call?

 

[sgu]

Nothing from World yet, I may have a lead I can pursue there. Thanks for asking 1800.

 

[LittleLearBoy]

World is a pretty cool place to work for. You will see the world, but on the flip side, you can be gone alot.
The letter sucks!!!
LLB

 

[captch11]

FYi for the hopeful...

Filled out the new computer app in Oct 2006, no recs on file yet, called in Nov2006, interviewed in Dec2006, 29 Jan 2007 classdate. Civilian white male, 10K TT, MD-11 type.

I did have several company recs on file by the time I went to SDF for the interview, but none to get the call. I'm still trying to believe it's real. They wanted me in class on monday for the -11, but I'm in Germany on a freighter trip and will be over the Pond Monday. Ce est la vie.

Good luck to everyone.

-Captain Chapter 11

 

[Archie Bunker]

FYi for the hopeful...

Filled out the new computer app in Oct 2006, no recs on file yet, called in Nov2006, interviewed in Dec2006, 29 Jan 2007 classdate. Civilian white male, 10K TT, MD-11 type.

I did have several company recs on file by the time I went to SDF for the interview, but none to get the call. I'm still trying to believe it's real. They wanted me in class on monday for the -11, but I'm in Germany on a freighter trip and will be over the Pond Monday. Ce est la vie.

Good luck to everyone.

-Captain Chapter 11

Wow, that is a fast turnaround! Congrats.

I got offered the Jan 16th class also (with 6 days notice), but had to turn it down because I was out of the country flying, and didn't have enough time to get ready. It looks like they are having a tough time filling that class.

I got offered the Jan 29th class also, so I guess I'll see you there.