Public Use Rules???

[DC4boy]

There is more. One of our Pilots, who fancies himself an attorney, came to the conclusion that a pilot could be held accountable in a neglegence case. The S-2T/G is not a certified aircraft. Manufactuer gross weight is less than Marsh conversion GW. But, CDF directed Marsh to bulid the A/C to FAA air worthiness cert. spec.'s to ensure quality. Thus they came with AW certificates. If an incident occurred with an A/C operated over manufactuer GW, the pilot could be held accountable. The FAA has told us that, to be 100% Pub. use, CDF must surrender AW certs. There is probably more to it than I understand. But this is what I was told,...

 

[satpak77]

There is more. One of our Pilots, who fancies himself an attorney, came to the conclusion that a pilot could be held accountable in a neglegence case. The S-2T/G is not a certified aircraft. Manufactuer gross weight is less than Marsh conversion GW. But, CDF directed Marsh to bulid the A/C to FAA air worthiness cert. spec.'s to ensure quality. Thus they came with AW certificates. If an incident occurred with an A/C operated over manufactuer GW, the pilot could be held accountable. The FAA has told us that, to be 100% Pub. use, CDF must surrender AW certs. There is probably more to it than I understand. But this is what I was told,...

Call three FSDO's and you will three interpretations of public use. Surrender of the AW is not a requirement to be Public Use.

 

[satpak77]

There is more. One of our Pilots, who fancies himself an attorney, came to the conclusion that a pilot could be held accountable in a neglegence case. The S-2T/G is not a certified aircraft. Manufactuer gross weight is less than Marsh conversion GW. But, CDF directed Marsh to bulid the A/C to FAA air worthiness cert. spec.'s to ensure quality. Thus they came with AW certificates. If an incident occurred with an A/C operated over manufactuer GW, the pilot could be held accountable. The FAA has told us that, to be 100% Pub. use, CDF must surrender AW certs. There is probably more to it than I understand. But this is what I was told,...

Call three FSDO's and you will three interpretations of public use. Surrender of the AW is not a requirement to be Public Use.

 

[NoahWerka]

If your A/C has an airworhiness cert it may not be operated as public use. Period. The FAA has made that clear to us operating under a state contract.

Not true. Used to fly 737's that had A/W certificates and were used for US Marhsal Service flying hauling Federal prisoners around the US. When this A/C wasn't moving cons, it was moving civilians around on Private Charters. Best flying I ever did. Basically, no rules or Regs. Call sign was "JusticeXXX". More than once we got moved the head of the line, or got cleared direct to destination, or told to "disregard holding instructions, proceed direct to XXXXX" by ATC. No "Time and Duty" limits, no releases, no paperwork required. Nothing. Great fun flying.