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Heybill

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Can anyone answer a couple of questions for a military guy thinking about Mesa Air Group?

1. How difficult would it be to get myself domiciled in PHX right away? How do they decide where your domicile will be?

2. How long will it take to upgrade?
 
Can anyone answer a couple of questions for a military guy thinking about Mesa Air Group?

1. How difficult would it be to get myself domiciled in PHX right away?
dang Near Impossible

How do they decide where your domicile will be?
It's decided by what equipment you are put into. You can go B1900 or CRJ, it's at "company discretion" They will put you where they want you and not where you need you. After that, you can bid via a "standing bid" system, when they award guys to phx, the most senior guy that wants it, gets it. Right now I think it is 9 months - 1 year to hold phx CRJ FO. THe Dash and CRJ are the only aircraft in phx.

2. How long will it take to upgrade?
Depends on the airplane again. B1900/Dash 8 are both less then a year, CRJ/ERJ are running 2-3 years for the junior domiciles (PHX is at the 6 year mark for CRJ CA)

Your best bet to get PHX would be the Dash would be my guess, though you will have to start out in the JFK system
 
khsgt said:
Can anyone answer a couple of questions for a military guy thinking about Mesa Air Group?

1. How difficult would it be to get myself domiciled in PHX right away?
dang Near Impossible

How do they decide where your domicile will be?
It's decided by what equipment you are put into. You can go B1900 or CRJ, it's at "company discretion" They will put you where they want you and not where you need you. After that, you can bid via a "standing bid" system, when they award guys to phx, the most senior guy that wants it, gets it. Right now I think it is 9 months - 1 year to hold phx CRJ FO. THe Dash and CRJ are the only aircraft in phx.

2. How long will it take to upgrade?
Depends on the airplane again. B1900/Dash 8 are both less then a year, CRJ/ERJ are running 2-3 years for the junior domiciles (PHX is at the 6 year mark for CRJ CA)

Your best bet to get PHX would be the Dash would be my guess, though you will have to start out in the JFK system
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Thanks a lot for the info!
 
Right now the bottom 20 or so FO's in phx on the CRJ were hired june and july of 2006. I believe that they have been in phx for a few months already. So Right now if you get the CRJ it might be fairly quickly.
 
For several years PHX was very senior due to downsizing. Many of the 2 year FO's in PHX quit after 2 years on reserve with no end in sight. This allowed some new-hires to get into PHX this summer. But the upgrade would take at least ten years.

However...

Everybody expects USAir to fire mesa as soon as they can figure out how to do it. That will be the end of PHX, which is mesa's last western jet base.

You will have no choice of aircraft, and will be locked into whatever you get assinged (most airlines allow you to switch after a year or so).

If you have military time, go somewhere else. Mesa sucks beyond belief
 
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Sioux115 said:
It may take only 2-3 years to upgrade in the jets but it will feel like 10!
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And the problem is that you will want to quit in less then a year. For the love of God, dont, I repeat dont go to Mesa, or at lest have your wife stitch you a nice quilt to cover up your purple piece of Mesa issued plywood. Go somewhere that at least treats you with a little bit of respect.
 
rickair7777 said:
However...

Everybody expects USAir to fire mesa as soon as they can figure out how to do it.
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When you say "everybody," are you referring to Mesa employees? USAir employees? The whole industry?
I can understand USAir being dissatisfied, but this is the first I've heard that they're looking to take their business elsewhere.
 
time builder said:
When you say "everybody," are you referring to Mesa employees? USAir employees? The whole industry?
I can understand USAir being dissatisfied, but this is the first I've heard that they're looking to take their business elsewhere.
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Talk to america west employees. Word on the street is that DP is VERY dissatisfied with mesa. Anyone who has anything to do with mesa ops should be able to see why. It sounds like not a question of if, but when. This topic is continually under discussion on mesahub.com
 
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rickair7777 said:
Talk to america west employees. Word on the street is that DP is VERY dissatisfied with mesa. Anyone who has anything to do with mesa ops should be able to see why. It sounds like not a question of if, but when. This topic is continually under discussion on mesahub.com
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Right, I can see why they're not satisfied, I used to work contract services for America West, believe me I know. The question is: what's it going to take? Is someone going to have to outbid them (heaven forbid, the standards they would have to drop to), or will they pay more for a better quality regional?
 
time builder said:
Right, I can see why they're not satisfied, I used to work contract services for America West, believe me I know. The question is: what's it going to take? Is someone going to have to outbid them (heaven forbid, the standards they would have to drop to), or will they pay more for a better quality regional?
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Look at some of the other regionals that USAir currently employs...I don't think that they will have a problem paying more for quality. That's what I'm hoping anyway.
 
rickair7777 said:
Look at some of the other regionals that USAir currently employs...I don't think that they will have a problem paying more for quality. That's what I'm hoping anyway.
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I'm in Vegas, enlighten me, who else flies USAir express back east? Republic, and who else?
 
Mesa has been on the chopping block with every code share it has since they got them. I would think if it was going to happen it would just happen. But its good fun to talk about it in the crewroom
 

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