Metro/B1900

[DirtyBeech]

Ok, ok, we'll admit it.

 

[Toobdrvr]

Disagreed. Metro and 1900 pilots are clearly far superior in every aspect of aviating. Everyone knows that...

...so what about the select few of us that are typed in BOTH?...

Recent discussion with the wife:
ME: "All pilots are dorks"
Her: "But you're the Chief Pilot"
Me: "...King of the Dorks..."

Oops, forgot to answer the question: Both a/c are a blast to fly SP. It doesn't really seem like a bad idea until you are doing a circling approach at minimums in a metro, and then you really wish you had someone else in there, if for nothing else than appreciating with you how much this sucks.

In my opinion, the 1900 is a far superior a/c, much better design, and thus much easier (and fun) to fly. The upside of the metro SP is that every day you don't crash felt like an accomplishment!

Popular adage: "The 1900 was designed by geniui for idiots to fly, while the metro was designed by idiots for geniui to fly"

...what do I know, I'm in an airbus...

 

[DeathPencil]

...so what about the select few of us that are typed in BOTH?...

Recent discussion with the wife:
ME: "All pilots are dorks"
Her: "But you're the Chief Pilot"
Me: "...King of the Dorks..."



...what do I know, I'm in an airbus...

I still wonder why they bothered to put a control yoke in the metro.

 

[DirtyBeech]

All that really matters is looks. If you take a 1900, take all the aerodynamic corrections off of it, round the edges and give it a face lift you'd have a Metro approximation.

Besides, real mean fly the Bro and the Metro, and no, by that definition (and often my wife's) I'm not a real man.

 

[JSky26]

Just curious...

Does the Metro or the Beech have an A/P installed? I thought 135 op-specs required an A/P if an SIC is not there...?

 

[Toobdrvr]

Just curious...

Does the Metro or the Beech have an A/P installed? I thought 135 op-specs required an A/P if an SIC is not there...?

I think that's just an exemption a 135 can get for pax ops. At AMF all the metros have 'em, some better than others, and some of the 1900's do. They're both so solid that you don't really need one, but the approach coupler in the UP/DH metros are sweet!!! No autoland, though...

 

[AZFr8tPilot]

Not all AMF Metros had autopilots until a few months ago. There was one that I flew on a daily basis in PHX that didn't have an autopilot until several months ago. Got fairly used to hand flying it all the time and had to adjust to using the autopilot when it was finally installed.

 

[DeathPencil]

all except for a couple 1900's have autopilots in them now and the 99's are supposed to start getting them installed soon.

 

[JSky26]

whatever the case....

I give mad props to you freight dawgs out there!

 

[time builder]

all except for a couple 1900's have autopilots in them now and the 99's are supposed to start getting them installed soon.

What? The 99's are getting autopilots? Is this new equipment, or a second try at the old ones?

 

[SDCFI]

What? The 99's are getting autopilots? Is this new equipment, or a second try at the old ones?

Autopilots in the 99's? I'd much rather see them put in GPS, especially in the Metros and 1900's. Seeing as how we already have them certified and installed in the SJU planes it shouldn't be too hard. Probably won't happen in my lifetime though. Oh well.

 

[citabriapilot]

What? The 99's are getting autopilots? Is this new equipment, or a second try at the old ones?

New equipment. I flew the "test" model that was installed on N225BH. Currently in DFW. Heading, Nav and altitude hold. Worked great. It's one of the models that is built into the turn coord. with a couple of other switches for nav 1/2 select and on/off.

 

[DirtyBeech]

Yeah, STEC 50, and it flies great. Worth every penny in my opinion. It's nice to look up from trend monitoring in that thing now, and not wonder why the blue and the brown switched places.

BTW, Citabria, what the heck did you do to that thing. They've been changing gear, skin, brackets and wing spars every since your last flight in it. Were you trying for a third wire trap down in Corpus?

 

[citabriapilot]

You sure it wasn't YOU who messed up the plane? I know I'm more current in the 99 than you are! C'mon, you know you gotta be gentle with those things! Like a sports car, right?

 

[frmrBUFFdrvr]

I'M convinced DB did it just to get out of flying it regularly.

 

[DirtyBeech]

Had to do something. My job description said Metro reserve, not 99 pilot with occasional Metro duties. IntheBuff, I'll let you do a line check with me in it, and we'll discuss how much you enjoy climbing that frickin' ladder and diving in the cockpit Dukes of Hazard style.

Speaking of flying regularly, did you get good news from roto rooter er.... the heart doctor?

 

[time builder]

New equipment. I flew the "test" model that was installed on N225BH. Currently in DFW. Heading, Nav and altitude hold. Worked great. It's one of the models that is built into the turn coord. with a couple of other switches for nav 1/2 select and on/off.

Sounds like a good investment. It could definitely relive the single pilot workload when you're coming into class B IFR, they switch the approach on you a couple times and still expect you to maintain 170 kts plus.

 

[Tryful]

well you wouldn't have to worry about that to much wouldya don? considering i'm sure another f/o is gonna jump on your legs in a milaseconds since randall left! hahha

but yeah it will certainly be nice just to get some basic alt and hdg hold a/ps in the 99's.

 

[DeathPencil]

Sounds like a good investment. It could definitely relive the single pilot workload when you're coming into class B IFR, they switch the approach on you a couple times and still expect you to maintain 170 kts plus.

It also helps you eat lunch without getting peanut butter and jelly on the yoke... and why would anyone want to slow down to 170??

 

[ksu_aviator]

I slow to 170...on a 3 mile final!