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Island Air to Fly Q400s out of Vegas?

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I found this on another website so it is unconfirmed but it sounded interesting. Looking to see if anyone at Island Air had heard the same about the use of "excess" Q400s. Evidently they may send them to Las Vegas - perhaps partner with Vision Air (D328 operator). Anyone know anything? Do you think many senior Island Air pilots would want to leave the islands for the desert? Again, the article below is unconfirmed.


carrier has signed a letter of intent
to begin short-haul flights on the mainland
By Dave Segal, Honolulu Star-Bulletin

Island Air, seeking to reduce its risk in the crowded interisland market, has signed a letter of intent to conduct mainland operations with an undisclosed party using the 78-seat Bombardier Q400 airplane that Island Air recently took out of service and two other Q400s ordered but not yet delivered.

Chief Executive Robert Mauracher confirmed the deal yesterday but said final contract negotiations were still being worked out, and he wasn't prepared yet to disclose the location of the operations or the routes that will be served.

However, a person familiar with the situation said Island Air was going to be operating out of
Las Vegas, possibly from a regional airport, to other cities in the U.S. West.

Mauracher said he could neither confirm nor deny the hub city. He said Island Air will be flying on behalf of another company.

"It will be very similar to what we do here, except that we'll do it on the mainland," he said. "It won't be Island Air, but our contract will be an outsourcing of services to a different party. The name will be different, but it will be operated under an Island Air certificate using Island Air employees. If things materialize like we assume, we hope to be operating by the end of the first quarter of next year."

Mauracher said Island Air still plans to remain in the
Hawaii market. The regional carrier operates 103 daily interisland flights with eight 37-seat Bombardier Dash-8s. Island Air had planned to bring the three Q400s to Hawaii, but later reconsidered that move after the new interisland carrier go! stormed the market with low ticket prices.
...to finish article

 
I don't think Islandair is going to partner up with any other regionnal operating our of Vegas. Then, i could be wrong.
 
I don't think Islandair is going to partner up with any other regionnal operating our of Vegas. Then, i could be wrong.

So, it is a fake article? Someone just made that up to fill up space? Hmmm. If you are on the Dash-8-400, you may find yourself in the Desert instead of Maui. It very well may happen. Maybe they will fly for Vision Air out of North Vegas. (notice the owner of Island Air said it could be a regional airport) They already fly Dornier 328s. And look who wrote the article---Dave Segal. Didn't he run USAir? Wow, he really has sunk to an all time low....

Bye Bye--General Lee
 
So, it is a fake article? Someone just made that up to fill up space? Hmmm. If you are on the Dash-8-400, you may find yourself in the Desert instead of Maui. It very well may happen. Maybe they will fly for Vision Air out of North Vegas. (notice the owner of Island Air said it could be a regional airport) They already fly Dornier 328s. And look who wrote the article---Dave Segal. Didn't he run USAir? Wow, he really has sunk to an all time low....

Bye Bye--General Lee

i read jmt's 2 sentences 3 times and i wasnt able to find where he said it was a fake article.

he did say that he doesnt THINK they are going to PARTNER up with anyone operating out of vegas. i would say that the variables are partner/no-partner (with someone operating out of vegas) and its what he thinks versus hard facts.
 
i read jmt's 2 sentences 3 times and i wasnt able to find where he said it was a fake article.

he did say that he doesnt THINK they are going to PARTNER up with anyone operating out of vegas. i would say that the variables are partner/no-partner (with someone operating out of vegas) and its what he thinks versus hard facts.


I don't know, I guess I could say "that won't happen" when an article in front of me says it might. Sure.


Bye Bye--General Lee
 
FWIW, I was in LAS today and saw an Island Air Q400 parked on the ramp. It was on the GA side of the airport near Atlantic Aviation and not at the airline terminal.

C425Driver
 
FWIW, I was in LAS today and saw an Island Air Q400 parked on the ramp. It was on the GA side of the airport near Atlantic Aviation and not at the airline terminal.

C425Driver

I hope JMT doesn't read that.


Bye Bye--General Lee
 
I don't know, I guess I could say "that won't happen" when an article in front of me says it might. Sure.


Bye Bye--General Lee

He said Island Air will be flying on behalf of another company.

I don't think Islandair is going to partner up with any other regionnal operating our of Vegas. Then, i could be wrong.
i believe he was qualifying his statement with "any other regional" as opposed to any company.

also, there's a difference in saying "it wont happen" with "i think...". one is purporting to have special knowledge, the other is stating an opinion thats probably based in an adage about counting chickens prior to being hatched.
 
i forgot to mention that he was most likely commenting on the editorial that brought up other regionals that preceded the article:

I found this on another website so it is unconfirmed but it sounded interesting. Looking to see if anyone at Island Air had heard the same about the use of "excess" Q400s. Evidently they may send them to Las Vegas - perhaps partner with Vision Air (D328 operator). Anyone know anything? Do you think many senior Island Air pilots would want to leave the islands for the desert? Again, the article below is unconfirmed.


all regionals are companies, but not all companies are regionals.
 
Wow, General Lee visited an Island Air thread? WTF for? The 400 at LAS must be the second one that was "delayed" and not delivered. In full WP colors with a new blue leather interior. It never made it to HI.

I wouldn't expect anyone to be junior manned to vegas. Though, anything is possible.
 
General,
The article says that "Island Air will be flying on behalf of another company". What I meant is that Island Air might not partner up with another company/regional to fly on behalf of that other "unknown "company.
 
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Do you think many senior Island Air pilots would want to leave the islands for the desert?


All the boys'll be there......Rod, Johnson, Peter, Dick, Wang, Willy, Woody, Todger, Rumple Phoresken, Wun Hung Lo, Tally Whacker, and Roger Ramraud.
 
Seriously, who knows. I do know this: if you're from the mainland, it's hard to move to Hawaii. If you're from Hawaii, it's hard to move to the mainland. (I'm talking mentally, not logistically--although, logistically, moving [westbound OR eastbound] SUCKS.)
 
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A dark, dark day at WP......
 
Allegiant

Watch them start a feed to AAY. G4 is getting big enough now that they might need a feed sort of like Frontier.
 
I'm taking wagers for table bets in LAS.
Seem to have a thing going with luck lately.
Small commission of course.
 
I dont think that is the same Dash-8 that is in LAS. I was in LAS yesterday and there was an islandair q-400 on the ramp with canadian registration still. It went flying for 1-2 hrs. and came back.

The Dash listed in flightaware had been in Camarillo for a few weeks.

-celloman
 
Not out of KVGT

The Dash-8 Q400 has too many seats to operate out of North Las Vegas airport for Vision Airlines- Vision had to remove 2 seats from their DO-328's to be able to operate out of KVGT (they now have 30 seats after taking out 2).
 
I dont think that is the same Dash-8 that is in LAS. I was in LAS yesterday and there was an islandair q-400 on the ramp with canadian registration still. It went flying for 1-2 hrs. and came back.

The Dash listed in flightaware had been in Camarillo for a few weeks.

-celloman
This one?
If you read post 10, you'd realize that there's more than one of them. It sure isn't the one that was here.
 
There is no way that the Q400 could operate out of North las vegas in the winter let alone in the summer time with 115 degree temperatures. According to Airnav.com North las vegas's runway can not handle anything heavier then 30,000 pounds.

Henderson..... you might be able to operate it at a reduced capacity. runway 17R/35L can handle 60,000 lbs and its 6501 feet long -vs- 5004 feet at North Las Vegas.

I don't think either one of those airports can really handle the Q400
 
There was a nice county show on TV yesterday about the Henderson airport and all the upgrades the county is putting into it to draw traffic(GA) away from LAS.
Don't remember the performance for the -400 for 2000' elevation. But if 60,000 MTOW is the limit I would think 6501' would be long enough.
Still a sad replacement for HNL.
 
They'll pull out the APU, thus saving weight. That'll make up for the summer heat/short runway problems.
 
They'll pull out the APU, thus saving weight. That'll make up for the summer heat/short runway problems.


Unfortunately you're probably right. They will also take out what's left of a galley and stop serving any liquids and let the passengers sit in the sweltering heat! Any passenger who pass's out from the heat will be taken off the plane thus reducing our take off weight!
 

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