DAL jumpseat courtesy

[flying bubba]

I recently did a flt from JFK to MCO. Kinda busy up front with seven wheelchairs of children from "Make a Wish" going down to Disney, Five Unaccompanied minors, and a full load of pax. In my cockpit jumpseat was FAA doing spot checks. Not your typical loading process but not overwhelming either.
Upon arrival in MCO we are working hard to get everyone off the aircraft when off walks a DAL FO. That was the first I saw of him. He walks by me with a short little "see ya round". No thanks, no introductions, just see ya.
I thought he must have checked in with the FO during boarding, or maybe the lead FA. So I ask both and neither one had even seen or talked to him.
The FAA proceeds to ask me, "you mean you had another airline pilot onboard and you didnt even know about it?"
What can I say? Uh no.
He proceeds to tell me that I have to know these things and that I should be more aware of who is on my aircraft in case of emergencies, etc.
After it was all over, all I could think of was that this all could have been avoided with a 10 second hello from this guy. Apparently, the nonreving etiquette for DAL doesnt require this. I guess from now on I will be a little more alert as to offline personnel on the aircraft (because we have so much time on our hands to watch everyone board).
Sorry for the rant but I just had to voice this.
Lastly, JB has one of these finest jumpseat policies in the business, please dont abuse us, or treat us like proverbial red headed stepchildren. (sorry if youre a redhead.)

Thanks

 

[WorldOnTime]

I recently did a flt from JFK to MCO. Kinda busy up front with seven wheelchairs of children from "Make a Wish" going down to Disney, Five Unaccompanied minors, and a full load of pax. In my cockpit jumpseat was FAA doing spot checks. Not your typical loading process but not overwhelming either.
Upon arrival in MCO we are working hard to get everyone off the aircraft when off walks a DAL FO. That was the first I saw of him. He walks by me with a short little "see ya round". No thanks, no introductions, just see ya.
I thought he must have checked in with the FO during boarding, or maybe the lead FA. So I ask both and neither one had even seen or talked to him.
The FAA proceeds to ask me, "you mean you had another airline pilot onboard and you didnt even know about it?"
What can I say? Uh no.
He proceeds to tell me that I have to know these things and that I should be more aware of who is on my aircraft in case of emergencies, etc.
After it was all over, all I could think of was that this all could have been avoided with a 10 second hello from this guy. Apparently, the nonreving etiquette for DAL doesnt require this. I guess from now on I will be a little more alert as to offline personnel on the aircraft (because we have so much time on our hands to watch everyone board).
Sorry for the rant but I just had to voice this.
Lastly, JB has one of these finest jumpseat policies in the business, please dont abuse us, or treat us like proverbial red headed stepchildren. (sorry if youre a redhead.)

Thanks

Maybe he had a ticket?

 

[Purpledog]

I fly a lot in uniform with a ticket and I have gotten the stink eye a couple times as well. So if a pilot with bloodshot eyes, giant bags under his eyes, a uniform that looks like he's been sleeping on an airport bench gets on your plane early in the 'morn, don't take offense if I don't come up and chat.

 

[FR8mastr]

was this guy listed as a jump? If he was I agree, if not, the fed is out of his mind. Why should a non-rev or pax come up front to chat. Even if he wanted to it sounds like you guys had your plates full especially with a fed riding the jump seat. I say tell the fed to go back to his cubicle and leave the flying to the pro's.

 

[PHXFLYR]

Many times we have Fed Ex ,NetJet or Mesa pilots on board that have "space p" tickets purchased by their respective companies to position them either home or to work. They never came up to say hello to let us know that they were back there,nor are they required to. It also seems to me the Fed didn't know what he was talking about and was just looking to do some "chest thumping". If the pilot in question was indeed traveling in uniform and there was an inflight emergency, I'm sure the F/A would have asked him/her for assistance when she was looking for ABP's to assist in the emergency,and I'm sure he would have obliged in any way possible.Therfore ,in this case there was no requirement to know he was back there .For the Fed to say otherwise and to give you a ration over it shows you just how far removed from common sense they are sometimes.

PHXFLYR

 

[Lake Alice]

For the Fed to say otherwise and to give you a ration over it shows you just how far removed from common sense they are sometimes.

What???? the feds clueless??? Never!!!

Heck, I had a fed the other day JFK-FLL who, no lie, harldy spoke english. Obviously there is a need for spanish speakers in the S. Florida area but it was extremely difficult to communicate with this person.

 

[batsky2000]

PHXFLYR is right, I work for NetJets and our company purchases our tickets for us to go to work and to get home. I usually wear my uniform just because I might get stuck with a trip on my way to work and this way I don't have to change, but for all practical purposes most of us are gold,platinum,etc. members in FF programs due to the amount of flying we do. I always get the eye from the pilots when I get off, I have even had one Capt. pull me aside after I got off and whale at me for not checking in with him, after he was done, I told him he should get his facts staright before he just go's off at people, me showing my full "Y" fare ticket shut him up fast, I have even had FA's tell me that they will serve me last after everyone else gets their food, I told her NO, I will take my food now, I have even received the evil eye from customers walking past me wondering why I got a 1st class seat and them not knowing that I am a Delta Platinum member and had priority over them, they just assumed that I was a free loading non-rev and don't deserve the 1st class seat

In other words, don't assume that the guy in the pilots suit in the back is a non-rev, you may make an A** out of yourself!!!

 

[737 Pylt]

Apparently, the nonreving etiquette for DAL doesnt require this.

I realize you are emotional about this situation, but don't let one incident spoil the lot! He may have been on a paid ticket.

I guess from now on I will be a little more alert as to offline personnel on the aircraft (because we have so much time on our hands to watch everyone board).
Sorry for the rant but I just had to voice this.
Lastly, JB has one of these finest jumpseat policies in the business, please dont abuse us, or treat us like proverbial red headed stepchildren. (sorry if youre a redhead.)

Thanks

I agree, you guys do have THE best JS policy in the biz! Its ok to rant, but don't let one incident get your feathers in an uproar. Try to find out the facts first.
737

 

[Uppercrust]

Unbelievable.

 

[Falcon Jet 1]

I thought SWA had the best JS in trhe Biz?