Would these ideas work at NetJets?

[FLYLOW22]

Amen to what Diesel said. I'm not getting paid by the hour, so, you can kiss that NCT on ferry flights goodbye.

As far as the leg times, the other day our brief showed 2.4 and the filed flight plan showed 3.2. Needless to say, the owners were not happy as they had based their arrival time on the brief. I even ran the numbers based on zero wind and it was still around 3.0.

Always go by the flight plan time. The brief contains only static cruise times and sometimes reflects a different fleet speed/time altogether.

 

[acaTerry]

I asked about the single engine taxi possibilities in 2002. The answer I got was that "many of the planes we fly do not have nose wheels designed for SE taxiing."

I guess it causes damage to the wheels and bearings.

FLEX takeoffs... I'd love it.

Oh you kuh-rayzee CE750 guys! :laugh: Life in the 400...no SE taxi for 2 reasons:
1) No tiller
2) We'd need 97% N1 to make the thing strat moving, much less turn

Flex takeoffs...geez, the thing barely wants to lumber off the ground with full power as it is.

Don't you guys beat our gradient with ONE engine running?

 

[flyipilot]

Thanks for the responses, I have to admit that I did not think of planes without a tiller for SE taxi. I asked about these things in my past week recurrent class and they stated that they have looked at SE taxi in the past but like many of you have stated, it can be tough in the tight spots we operate in. I think it should be an option for tiller equiped planes on larger less congested ramps. As for flex take offs, he said they are looking at it and like the idea but it costs a lot to have airport analysis charts done for each plane and for each airport. So, for a company hesitant on getting paperless charts, I am sure a flex chart is not even a thought. Just ideas to try and save what we can. They did mention at recurrent that the company really is looking for ways to save fuel and those costs even though we pass them on to the customer.

Some other things mentioned in recurrent were: 1)Hiring between 450-600 next year. The 600 will be a tough challenge and a lot depends on sim avail. 2) New blackberry stuff coming in first part of year including a new page to look at your schedule 24 hours out. Not to be used for anything other than planning. They said they are tired of getting calls everyday about tomorrows schedule. But, they have the ability to turn it off individually for those that call and use it as a way to get out of trips, etc... 3) We are growing but, I do not want to give out any specifics on this board. We are doing very well!

 

[skiandsurf]

On the same thought of changes and improvements at NJs, with this weather this week, seems like some pilots ar confused about de-icing procedures. It would be nice to have a "de-icing checklist", instead of guys making stuff up as they go.

 

[FLYLOW22]

Oh you kuh-rayzee CE750 guys! :laugh: Life in the 400...no SE taxi for 2 reasons:
1) No tiller
2) We'd need 97% N1 to make the thing start moving, much less turn

Flex takeoffs...geez, the thing barely wants to lumber off the ground with full power as it is.

Don't you guys beat our gradient with ONE engine running?

I'm a recovering X pilot, not an active one. imp:

I am all too familiar with the missing tiller these days.

And no, the X couldn't beat your SE climb gradient with one motor inop... it could do it with BOTH motors inop!!!! :nuts: :nuts:

 

[NJA Capt]

...he said they are looking at it and like the idea but it costs a lot to have airport analysis charts done for each plane and for each airport.

It is very doubtful that this will ever happen. Airlines fly the same planes to the same dozen airports. We fly all the 15 types to 5000 different airports. Airport analysis isn't practical on this scale.

They did mention at recurrent that the company really is looking for ways to save fuel and those costs even though we pass them on to the customer.

Not ferrying two planes opposite directions between the same two cities at the same time would help. (And you were worried about wasting 200# taxiing for 5 min )

...the other day our brief showed 2.4 and the filed flight plan showed 3.2.

You can't go by the brief. The brief flight times are based on the contract aircraft/zero wind, not the one doing the trip/forecast winds. It sounds like it was a X trip that could be done in 2.4 and yours needed 3+.

 

[atpcliff]

Hi!

My airline has been cheap. We do only fly 2 types that need airport analysis, but we also do fly all over the place (N. America and the Caribbean).

We have analysis for all the runways at all the airports we go to.

It seems like if we do, it wouldn't be impractical for NetJets.

cliff
GRB

 

[SDCFI]

Flexjet uses APG as well. You mean you NJA guys have to get the manual out and crunch numbers when it gets tight? That must get old after awhile. Every takeoff for us is a "Flex" takeoff. Get it? Sorry. This will be my first winter with Flexjet, so tips in deicing would help me too. What do you do when you're in TEB with the usual delays and it's snowing and you don't know when you'll get released? Just wait on the ramp until they tell you you'll be next? Sounds fun (sarcasm on). Seems like assumed temperature takeoffs would be easy in DEEC or FADEC equipped aircraft. In the Lear 45 the DEEC already sets TO pwr using current conditions (temp, alt, etc). All you'd need to do is have an FMS input to override the current temp and put in a higher one. It would work great for us with APG, because that shows you right there how hot it can be at your current weight and still depart. Just plug that temp into the computer and voila! It's probably not really that easy, but a boy can dream can't he?

 

[acaTerry]

I'm a recovering X pilot, not an active one. imp:

I am all too familiar with the missing tiller these days.

And no, the X couldn't beat your SE climb gradient with one motor inop... it could do it with BOTH motors inop!!!! :nuts: :nuts:

Frankly, I don't miss the tillers.

The 400 seems to be a big reunion of former X pilots. :beer: