Why this difference between NJ and NJ Europe?

[flya380]

Why are the folks at NJ Europe making so much more money (starting FO is 50K Euros= 60K Dollars and Captains are over 6 figures)? Don't the 2 companies belong to the same owner?

Over there their pilots still get the positive space ticket to go to work and come back, how come NJ pilots lost this really nice feature in the last contract?

Cheers

 

[rettofly]

Why are the folks at NJ Europe making so much more money (starting FO is 50K Euros= 60K Dollars and Captains are over 6 figures)? Don't the 2 companies belong to the same owner?

One reason might be the confiscatory income taxes in most of the European countries. Last I heard, income tax at the low end of the earnings scale is more than 50%.

 

[RTRHD]

We all get positive space tickets.

 

[gunfyter]

Europeans make it harder to get your ratings thereby creating a shortage of pilots....

just like the AMA makes it hard to get into medical school.

 

[flya380]

From what I've heard NJE is a Portugal "domiciled" company operating out of UK, where the taxes are lower. So if I am not wrong pilots pay their taxes in UK wherever they live.

 

[flya380]

And If I am not wrong NJ pilots get airline tickets to go home once their 7 days are over, correct? They are on their own to go to work for the beggining of the trip.

 

[gutshotdraw]

Not correct. Company pays airline ticket to and from work every week for NJA, NJI, and NJE.

Salaries were increased at NJE because of a major pilot retention problem. There is also a major shortage of pilots in Europe due to rapid hiring at the numerous start-up airlines there and the ridiculous cost of flight training that keep new pilots out of the game.

NJE has also announced an ab initio program to fill pilot slots for the same reasons.

 

[flya380]

MY bad, I thought that since the last contract, new hires were supposed to live in one of the gateway cities.

 

[VVJM265]

You don't have to live in the domicile. If you don't then you are on your own to show up to work on time for the first day of the tour. In my case, I'll have to make my way from CRP to DAL, on my own dime, the night before to be ready to go on day 1. The company flies you from the domicile to the jet via com air if the jet is not at the domicile on the first day of the tour. Last day of the tour you can fly to somewhere other than the domicle, but the company will only pick up the cost of the flight to the domicile; you pay the balance. Confused yet?

 

[Guitar Guy]

NetJets couldn't afford to NOT positive-space us to get to the planes. And they'd be hurting for pilots if they didn't positive-space us home at the end of the tour.