Why is "Open Skies" bad for US carriers?

[jetfo]

Would US flag carriers not benefit from greatly expanded and profitable international flying to Europe?

And, would greater foreign ownership, less than controlling that is, not benefit US carriers by an influx of capital?

Just interested in both viewpoints and the issues involved!

 

[nethan]

Well, you are looking at the two positives... However if US carriers expand into forigne markets, isn't it likely that forigne carriers would expand into US markets? All you have to do is look at the huge trade gap we've got going with pretty much every other country in the world to see that there would be much more expansion in the US from other carriers then there would be of US carriers expanding in other countries.

 

[GogglesPisano]

You want Ryanair flying within the US?

 

[typhoonpilot]

U.S. carriers would not benefit because the managers at U.S. carriers are too stupid too capitalize on any possible revenue generating possibilites. They would instead, place narrow body equipment on trans-Atlantic routes and then complain that the yields were to low, completely ignoring any revenue potential from freight that they could gain on widebody equipment. They would then come to the pilots and others workers and ask for pay concessions so that they can get their CSM down in order to compete.


TP

P.S. It would be great for my airline though, so I'm all for it. :beer:

 

[Rez O. Lewshun]

The EU and the EU carriers want to do more of the trans atlantic flying.... via code sharing... sure you are buying a ticket from a US carrier website but the jet at the airport will be of a EU carrier.

That means less US widebody jobs.... where the big pay rates and sweet schedules are....

Support the organizations and politicians who support YOU!


ALPA-PAC and CAPA-PAC...

 

[mar]

That's what I like about you.

P.S. It would be great for my airline though, so I'm all for it. :beer:

I appreciate how you can always see both sides of the coin.

 

[typhoonpilot]

I appreciate how you can always see both sides of the coin.

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TP

 

[pb4ufly]

Check out the new FlagShip:

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[Hutchman]

The agreement would not truly open the skies. US airlines that do not have slots at certain int. airports will not be allowed to land there. The airport has no more slots available. Heathrow for example. UA and AA could care less, but US airlines that do not have slots there would not only be blocked from flying there but at the same time annother carrier that had slots could now fly to thier US hub and take pax away. If it is open, it must be truly open. We all know that will never happen.

 

[ShamH85]

This will affect all of the US pilots in the long run if the "Open Skies" agreement occurs. Just another way management can outsource to the cheapest bidder via codesharing and take the QOL away from US pilots.

 

[DougsRule]

You want Ryanair flying within the US?

Not only Ryan...how about Jet Airlines or Kingfisher....or some new China Carrier.

 

[DougsRule]

Maybe that won't be so bad...they have height/weight standards for FA's

 

[Draginass]

The Europeans want access to the very large US market. As usual, the limp-wristed Republicans would give away the store to outsiders coming into our market to undercut us. They're not happy until we all are working for $5 an hour like the mexicans that are given impunity to invade our borders, suck up our tax dollars in medical care, then have the astonishing arrogance to demand "rights" that they aren't entitled to.

Vote for anybody but the Republicans next election.

 

[EMB170Pilot]

Maybe that won't be so bad...they have height/weight standards for FA's

haha!! so true

 

[calfo]

Maybe that won't be so bad...they have height/weight standards for FA's

We need them for fat-ass pilots.

 

[IAHERJ]

We need them for fat-ass pilots.(quote)

Hey, I eat the same food you have in your avatar. It's hard to stay thin.

Vote for anybody but the Republicans next election.(quote)

The problem is most pilots vote republican for single issues like abortion, totally missing the point. I agree with you.

IAHERJ