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When will airline industry learn its business plan won't fly?

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By Tom Blackburn
Cox News Service

Aviation - the human ability to fly and, more important, land safely - celebrated its 100th birthday just over a year ago. You'd think someone could have figured out how to make money at it by now.
In 2003, the latest year for which we have figures, the airline industry suffered net operating losses of $3.6 billion. Every day brings reports of new troubles to the most venerable logos in the air. One of those venerables, Delta, has cut fares, which means it will lose money on every flight. Not to be outdone, other companies are doing the same.
The airline industry as a whole has flown in the red since 2002. It lost $2 billion in the last three months of 2004. The industry had profitable years from 1995 through 2001, but they followed five years of losses. Counting bad and good together, the industry has had net operating losses of more than $5 billion over its history. These are Department of Transportation numbers, which the Air Transport Association, the trade group, keeps on its Web site in convenient tabular form.
Forty-eight years ago last month, my bride and I flew off on our honeymoon in a Northwest Airlines Boeing Stratocruiser, from Chicago to New York. The plane was designed, according to Jane's Aircraft, from the B-29. But whereas the B-29 looked like a weapon, a bullet with wings, the Stratocruiser looked like a hotel. It had a lounge in the nose under the cockpit. We sat there and looked down at the Christmas lights of the small towns and big cities of Pennsylvania. Coming home, we were served Canadian bacon over Canada.
As you can imagine, that airplane has a place in my heart. In the early 1960s, while talking to a Northwest executive about another matter, I mentioned my fondness for his old four-prop Stratocruiser. Everybody loved it, he replied, but even when it took off full, the airline lost money on it.
The jets, which were just coming into service, would save the airlines by being cheaper to fly and carrying more passengers. Or so he said. Airlines did get through the 1960s in good shape, but they lost money in 1970, when oil prices rose.
The ''carry more passengers'' prediction, though, turned out right. Boardings more than doubled between 1961 and 1967, and then quadrupled again by 1995. Before about 1956, non-movie stars flew only on special occasions, like honeymoons. Otherwise, we took the train. The airlines were just starting to become what they are today, a common carrier for VIPs, sales reps, students and families.
Nobody has a lounge in the nose anymore. Despite talk of theoretical piano bars and hot tubs on the new generation of Airbus monsters, expect those spaces to be filled with seats for customers.
Whether they will make money for their owners is another question. We hear now that it's only the ''legacy airlines'' such as Delta and United that have problems. They spend as much time before the bar as at the gate, but that's because they have ''antiquated'' - which means high - salary structures and big pension-fund overhangs. We'll always have, we hear, the leaner, meaner new airlines with salary structures more like Wal-Mart's and no pensions.
But that's not new news. As Pan American and Eastern Airlines were going under, we heard there would always be People Express. Remember People Express? The fastest-growing - to that point - airline of 1983 was merged into Continental in 1987.
Taking everything into account, air fares are a lot cheaper than they were in 1956. But then, most airlines were profitable. Now, most aren't.
There are many things in the business that an airline can't control, among them the price of fuel, weather and delays for security inspections. But if the business is based on losing money, it's not a viable business. The old joke about the guy who was going to make up a loss on every sale with volume is a joke because it describes the expectation of the impossible.
If an airline tried, like any normal business, to make a profit by charging a bit more than it costs to fly someone from point A to point B, it probably would lose its lunch to money-losing competitors. If all of them tried it, fewer people would fly. The airlines wouldn't be the common carriers they are. The national transportation system would have to adjust, just as the passenger railroads did when the airlines started eating their lunch.
But would that be so bad? Nowhere is it written that everybody has to get from point A to point B at below cost.
 
Don said:
They spend as much time before the bar as at the gate, but that's because they have ''antiquated'' - which means high - salary structures and big pension-fund overhangs.

Reading between the lines, it looks like another stab at the pilots....
 
There is this misnomer that they are always referencing pilots when they talk about high salary costs. What the reality is, legacies have higher costs across the board from mechanics, flight attendants, customer service people, baggage handlers, rampers, etc, etc. It is not just the pilots.
Usually the entire employee group has higher salaries and particularly higher benefits that put them at the disadvantage. If you throw less productivity into that equation, well, you have where we are today.
Pilots are mentioned only because as a class of employees, they have the biggest salaries along with the biggest difference between what they make and others do.
 
To me, I think the problem lies in the fact that people today think it should be cheap to fly since flight has seemingly been around for so long. Problem is fuel has become more expensive, but airlines are still flying in technology (engine and otherwise) that is many decades old.

I never had a perspective on this till I started taking flying lessons. When I go up a C152 for an hour (not including instructor) it costs ~$70. Now many would say the school is turning a huge profit. But lets look at the facts.

I probably cost the school $35 in fuel for that hour.

Now lets factor in maintenence, insurance, salaries of workers...they may be making around $10 an hour off me....not much.

Now lets take that and magnify it by 10,000.

Say a jetliner can carry 300 people from NY to LA. People are paying around $275 on average(factoring in 1st class...my last ticket was $180 with tax...so I am being generous)

Now this number says the airline had revenue of $82,500 for this flight. And as far as I know most big jets cost tens of thousands of dollars an hour to operate. SO given a 6 hour flight from NY to LA, how much money could the airline have really made on this flight(and what about all those redeye flights operating practically empty). And this is not to mention that airlines with older fleets cost a lot to operate, so southwest and the like with young fleets may be fine now, but what about when their fleet gets old?

My math, perception, and numbers may be way off, so if they are please enlighten me.

But I think we as a society need to truly understand the costs of flying. For instance, since about 5 years ago, an average flight from NY to LA went from ~350 to ~200...where did the airline make up that revenue? Because they certainly didn't reduce their costs long term.
 
It just looks like a bad game with the airlines right now. They all seem to agree that ticket prices are too low, but no one is willing to raise prices for fear that their competition won't. It seems like some of the bigger guys are trying to "re-invent" themselves while at the same time hoping that that while they themselves bleed because of too-low ticket prices, that their competition will succumb to the red ink before they do.

And speaking of high costs, look at what executives make at airlines. And how about the absurdity of executives picking up bonuses or perks while asking employees for concessions. Ask Don Carty about that, sadly enough.
 
http://slate.msn.com/id/2112550/Outfoxing SOX
Sarbanes-Oxley banned sweetheart loans to greedy executives. So, corporations are giving them free money instead.



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The Retention Bonus (you're keeping your job, so here's some extra cash): Mesa Air, a regional airline, gave two of its top executives hefty retention bonuses last year when it renewed their employment contracts. Chairman and CEO Jonathan Ornstein, who has been an executive at the company since May 1998, received a $1.8 million retention bonus, and Chief Operating Officer Michael Lotz received a $1.4 million retention bonus. Each exec's retention bonus was around six times his base salary.
 
Over a period of years,, you had some gains in efficiency due to improvements in technology. Jet aircraft, more efficient engines, new and more sophisticated elctronics all made the aircraft more cost effective.

That was merged with things like yield management to keep the cost more in line with demand on an all the time adjusting basis.

Lastly, governement regulation, which had fostered inefficency and allowed lax labor practces was thrown out and competition came into the field or air as it were.

The real problem has been the ability of the systems to deal with the changes that effect it.

As long as one, SWA, or two, Air Tran, can make a buck, there is nothing at all wrong with the model.
 

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