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I have a start date with a Fortune 500 company and a possible Airtran interview...(On the approved list for interview) I have always wanted to fly for Airtran and have been trying since 2003.

One of the problems I have is the 500 company is going to send me to school for a type and I don't want to accept a type rating and run!!

What would you guys do?
Would you take the gamble in hope to fulfill a dream or take the guaranteed job and forget the interview?
 
I don't know anything about corporate flying but I hear the schedules can be a bear. I tihnk the deciding factor should be QOL. Would you have to move for the 500 company? Would moving but not having to commute be better than the crashpad life? Job security: Boy that's a tough one there. I think when times get tough, the first thing to go is the company jet. Pay, benefits, time at home, all that stuff. Whatever decision you make, don't look back and make sure you enjoy what you're doing.

My $.02 although I'm sure I didn't answer your question.
 
I wouldn't waste your time at airtran. Its not that great of an airline, it is above the regionals but it isn't even in the same tier as Southwes, Jetblue or even Frontier. Its kinda a last resort airline.
 
How would you know that SuperKooter? Check out those JB rj pay rates then compare what tier WE may be in, not great but not that bad either. So why dont you shut up you moron.
 
Take the corporate job, get some great PIC turbine time and some job/family stability. Take some time to think about it, but remember, life is a marathon not a sprint. Hopefully, there will be even bigger and better opportunities in the future.

Just my opinion, I could be wrong.

Champ42272
 
I have a start date with a Fortune 500 company and a possible Airtran interview...(On the approved list for interview) I have always wanted to fly for Airtran and have been trying since 2003.

One of the problems I have is the 500 company is going to send me to school for a type and I don't want to accept a type rating and run!!

What would you guys do?
Would you take the gamble in hope to fulfill a dream or take the guaranteed job and forget the interview?

Go to a priest, therapist,wife, friend or even a 976 number. Whatever you do; don't ask that question here. Just my .02:uzi:
 
I left corporate aviation to come here. I like it fine. The corporate flying is more fun, but the ability to bid a schedule, swap/drop and be able to "leave all your troubles in the bag room" when you go home are hard to beat.

At Airtran, you can live where you want, and since the average corporate job lasts 3 years, you generally need to be willing to pack it up and move if you want to keep moving up, unless you grew up in TEB (shudder).

If you want to go with the corporate job, make sure to learn:

1) How many pilots per airplane. Anything less than 2.5 and you can't be covered for hard days off, training, vacation, etc. Accept no less!

2) How much severance would you get if they close the flight department tomorrow? I would be looking for 3-6 months guaranteed. If they say, "We'll never close- we're too valuable to the company" then they really don't have a clue.

3) How much flying is for the company, and how much is weekends and holidays flying the families around? Herein lies your misery ratio, if you have a family of your own. If they want you to fly them places on the holidays, would they be willig to airline your sorry @ss home to be with your family? It's usually cheaper than a hotel . . . and if they aren't willing to do that, you probably don't want to work for them anyway.

My personal guess is that versus a Fortune 500 company, it's a no-brainer. Go with AirTran. You'll have more time off, great training, plenty of fun, and never have to answer your phone on your days off. You can always leave for another airline or corporate if the right one comes along, and you don't like it, but I haven't seen any former corporate guys leave here to go back, that's for sure.

Now, if it is a Fortune 100 company, in a town you want to live in, and they staff appropriately, don't skimp on the training, and offer bennies comparable to what the execs are getting, well, then, you do have a dilemna, don't you?

Good luck.
 
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I have always wanted to fly for Airtran and have been trying since 2003.

Yeah, I caught that too. Not a knock on AirTran guys -- I used to work there, but "always wanted"? That doesn't convey a whole heck of a lot of industry experience, nor does it indicate a knowledge of airline history.

Regardless the advice you've been given here so far is good. Job security is fleeting in aviation whether you're at an airline or in corporate. Take the job that best suits your family and don't look back. I like the poster who said, "It's a marathon not a sprint".

Good luck.
 
I have a start date with a Fortune 500 company and a possible Airtran interview...(On the approved list for interview) I have always wanted to fly for Airtran and have been trying since 2003.

One of the problems I have is the 500 company is going to send me to school for a type and I don't want to accept a type rating and run!!

What would you guys do?
Would you take the gamble in hope to fulfill a dream or take the guaranteed job and forget the interview?

To pass on a job you have for a "maybe"?????

I am still perplexed as to why that is such a difficult decision.

I mean think about...

Ok, all you have is that you're on an 'approved list' to get a bloody phone call. I'd say that isn't much dude. And is sure isn't enough for me to pass on a sure thing...especially if it's a sure-thing that I want.

Take the job, go to school, and if in fact the phone rings offering you a ride to ATL, go to ATL and interview....

And then, should the phone ring after you leave ATL, offering you a class date, THEN and ONLY THEN, can you decide what to do.

And think about it, all that could happen next month or next year....

Don't make life more difficult! ;-)
 
My personal guess is that versus a Fortune 500 company, it's a no-brainer. Go with AirTran.

Ty, nice plug and all, but I think you forgot the part where he said he's just on some list to get a phone call for an interivew. I'd venture to guess there are a $hit load of folks on that list.

He 'ain't go no offer!

Ultra
 
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Why worry about loyalty to a company you don't even work for yet? That's nuts. "I'd hate to leave after they paid for..."

Whatever. They would fire you in a second if they downsized the flight department (maybe that never, ever happens in corporate flying), so would you ask them for a little bit of that "loyalty" back?

You're loyal to your family, your comrades, not to your employer. With your employer, you have a contractual relationship--they pay you, you give them your labor. Passing up on climbing the ladder due to a self-imposed guilt trip is going to cost you in the long run.

Take the first job, go to the interview later, then decide. Any other choice would be dumb.
 
Bird in hand bets to in the bushes.... I left the 121 gig for corp, and I sure do miss bidding a schedule and overnights nd flying with alot of different people. Also, I like Corp because we don't usually fly weekends or hollidays and right now we are averaging 8 days a month and 40 hrs/month. The pay is excellent and QOL is through the roof.

There are pro's and cons with each side of aviation. take your pick, but don't pass up the TYPE and a SURE thing job for a chance to interview. If anything, take the job, get the type, get the interview, and IF you get hired, then make the hard decision. Right now, there should be no decision.
 
The only reason not to take the corporate job and then leave it for Airtran is a fear of burning a bridge.

You'll never be able to go back to that corporate job if you don't like Airtran.

But, on the other hand, you may not get to Airtran or it may take longer than expected. If something weird like 9/11 happens or the economy unexpectedly slows further, Airtran may slow down hiring. Folks may spend a long time in the pool. Or you may simply not get the job.



I would take the corporate job. I believe it is not morally wrong to do so with Airtran in your sights. You may change your mind about Airtran or Airtran may change their mind about you.

And don't quit the corporate job until you are sitting in class at Airtran!!

PM me if you want more of this viewpoint.
 
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"What would you do?"

In this order:

- Get up.

- Get Drunk.

- Smoke Cigarettes.

- Masturbate.

- Cry.

And THEN, I would call that Fortune 500 operator and tell them "I'll be there YESTERDAY."

Airlines, like Broken Hearts...are for A-Holes.

And I know plenty of people at AirTran that don't share Ty's positive opinion of life at AirTran ( No slam intended Ty ). Yes, opinions too are for A-Holes. But, if enough A-Holes have the same opinion then it becomes fact.

Seriously, take the job you HAVE been offered, get the experience, wait til' this Industry rebounds ( 2007-2008 ) and then look at an airline gig...If, at that time, you feel you MUST.

And there you have this A-Holes opinion.

YKW
 
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I have always wanted towork at Da' Tranny. Whats wrong with that? If you live anywhere near the ATL area its hard to beat. They make money and there growing. I would rather make a career at a 'good' regional than work a great corp job, its just not my cup of tea. I have to many things I do outside of flying that I need to be able to schedule and its very hard to do w/ corp. I had a few brief cups of coffee and while not a bad job did that really care for it.
 
To pass on a job you have for a "maybe"?????

I am still perplexed as to why that is such a difficult decision.

I mean think about...

Ok, all you have is that you're on an 'approved list' to get a bloody phone call. I'd say that isn't much dude. And is sure isn't enough for me to pass on a sure thing...especially if it's a sure-thing that I want.

Take the job, go to school, and if in fact the phone rings offering you a ride to ATL, go to ATL and interview....

And then, should the phone ring after you leave ATL, offering you a class date, THEN and ONLY THEN, can you decide what to do.

And think about it, all that could happen next month or next year....

Don't make life more difficult! ;-)
ditto
 
I wouldn't waste your time at airtran. Its not that great of an airline, it is above the regionals but it isn't even in the same tier as Southwes, Jetblue or even Frontier. Its kinda a last resort airline.

I hate to pick apart your post...but what exactly do you mean, "or even Frontier"? Maybe it should read SWA, F9 or even JB... Because F9 has higher payrates and more days off and equal sched flexability to BJ. Or am I missing something...
 
I must be living right for it to happen so quick! I will let you guys know how it went....Thanks for all the advice!!!
 

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