What keeps you in aviation!

[limodriver1]

I have tried to figure out, why am I still flying?

What keeps you people in aviation?


Lots of negative stuff!
- Low Salaries
- pay cuts
- Benefits reduced
- furloughs
- Job has become like greyhound bus driver's job, except they make more money.
- Reduced days off
- Upgrade times long at least 3years in regionals (average)
- TSA makes commuting and security ridicilous(shoes off , shoes on, shoes off)
- Commuting difficult because rules about jumpseating
- Traveling became difficult because of new rules and regs. Non-rev...
- Training is more difficult for non-citizen
- stress, because job security unstable, more tighter turns between flights
- high risk, because terrorist, and other threats
- Pilot job has lost its respect
- PFT (pay for training)
- Other risks, bad wx,maintanence, pilot errors, radiation,
- Unions wants your money and they give you ....
- Other pilots backstabbing
- Flight attendants are ugly... Most of them. I guess the smart ones are the pretty ones.
- Jetblue , southwest is killing other carriers, I think that is changing little by little

And this is just my list, I would like to see what keeps you in aviation!

 

[General Lee]

Chicks dig us. And I get to ask "Wind Check?" at every airport. In reality, it beats a desk job.


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[73belair]

Chicks dig us. And I get to ask "Wind Check?" at every airport. In reality, it beats a desk job.


Bye Bye--General Lee

Man you Delta guys and that wind check thing!

 

[philo beddoe]

The same thing that keeps gamblers at the roulette wheel until they are ruined. If they ever invent a pill that can cure us of aviation, let me know.

 

[Corona]

I have tried to figure out, why am I still flying?

What keeps you people in aviation?


QUOTE]

I'd have to say it's a combination:

1) Only having to work 3 days a month while making 200K per year,

2) Living in a really rad house w/ three levels & a six-car garage.

3) Garage holds four cars now, including a used Ferrari 360 Modena.


OK, I admit that last one kind of sucks. I'm gonna have to ask the company to update that Ferrari.

So what are you staring at? Don't all the rest of you pilots live like me? Gad, you must work for some sucky companies...

C

 

[Sir Humpalot]

I get the chance to get away from the wife and it is work related.

 

[WhiteCloud]

The uniform is a Pu$$y magnet. Great for developing short term relationships.

 

[skid]

What keeps us in aviation? That is easy to answer. We have to eat! Out of machines and fast food ,that is. These people pretty much own you when you get in. No time off, always changing schedules and lack of pay. All this equals not being able to go back to school and still be able to pay the bills, unless you really want to kill yourself trying.

 

[Paul R. Smith]

I was gonna quit but my company just said that we don't have to wear the hats anymore. so I guess I'll stay another 33 more years.

 

[WSurf]

Like the Joke I heard!

A man walks into a bar, he's got crap all over him and smells terrible. Looking tired to walks up to the bartender. Bartender says, "man, you look terrible and smell". Sorry says the man, I just got off work!
Bartender says what do you do for a living! The man says, "I work for the airlines, and service the Lavs all day"

Bartender says, "Man, you mean all day long you have to get crapped on and deal with all that crap!", Yep says the man.

Bartender says, "well thats a terrible job, why don't you look for something else to do"

The man shouts, "AND GET OUT OF AVIATION, ARE YOU CRAZY!!!"

 

[flyer172r]

I'd go crazy sitting in a 9-5 desk job.

 

[Air Biscuit]

I guess what keeps me in aviation is the hope that things will get better, although our union at X-jet says hope is not a strategy and we should be happy to have the ta that has been presented to us for the next 6+ years. The no voters along with myself say fear is not a strategy.

 

[VGerect]

Two words-

FREE PRETZALS

 

[suupah]

don't worry when you are 58 and you make it to the left seat of a boeing, they will phase out pilots all together.

 

[Lear70]

What are you going to do? Get a REAL job?

Man, would THAT suck!

Seriously, if you don't truly love flying just for the sake of flying itself, now is a good time to go back to school... lots of government loans to be had to learn a career track that will actually make you that six-figure salary we dreamed about in college!

P.S. The uniform / chicks answer was as good as any!

 

[Justino]

Ding.... O Nice, Hot Tea Thanks !

 

[pilotyip]

Pay and fun

Where an you make close to a $100K per year doing something you really enjoy. Where else to you look forward to going to work everyday.

 

[capt. megadeth]

Where an you make close to a $100K per year doing something you really enjoy. Where else to you look forward to going to work everyday.

You can earn millions of dollars playing golf being a CEO and screwing all of us out of our deserved money.

I personally am in it only for the money

 

[pilotyip]

Capt M, you may be disappointed.

I am happy and am having a ball.

 

[Rottweiller]

Sure beats working for a living! Plus I don't know how to do anything else

 

[Sol Rosenberg]

im in it for the glamour

 

[capt. megadeth]

I am happy and am having a ball.

Pilotyip,
I was joking....as far as the money....I am already disappointed.

 

[foreverflyer]

This is just like the "Is anyone happy in this job!" If you don't like your job, LEAVE! Quite whining like a little baby and get out. Make room for the people who really want to be hear. The days of big money are still in aviation but it takes much more time to get there than it used to. If you can't wait to make big money, LEAVE! It is so tiring listening to you people complain. Say something positive for once in your life and maybe you will be a happier person.

 

[Air Biscuit]

This is just like the "Is anyone happy in this job!" If you don't like your job, LEAVE! Quite whining like a little baby and get out. Make room for the people who really want to be hear. The days of big money are still in aviation but it takes much more time to get there than it used to. If you can't wait to make big money, LEAVE! It is so tiring listening to you people complain. Say something positive for once in your life and maybe you will be a happier person.

Why don't you shut the hell up you little whore. The industry has changed because of people like you. If you're so happy to make no money than why don't you go become a missionary pilot and leave the money for the rest of us who have families to feed. One more thing Dumb&ss, learn how to spell.

 

[Sol Rosenberg]

Why don't you shut the hell up you little whore. The industry has changed because of people like you. If you're so happy to make no money than why don't you go become a missionary pilot and leave the money for the rest of us who have families to feed.

Amen Brotha. People like foreverflyer contribute to our wages being driven down because he has the whole "just glad to be here" attitude and won't stand up for what's right. He'd probably cross the picket line.

 

[AirportBum]

I hate to jump into the middle of a pissing contest, but in Foreverflyer's defense, I got the same impression when I read this thread. Simply enjoying your job, and expecting your co-workers to do the same does not make one a potential scab. I don't think that he was suggesting that we enjoy making no money, but was merely saying to enjoy the flying when you are at work, instead of being miserable all the time.

Most people have families to feed, but I have noticed that the happiest pilots are the ones who don't dwell on "the race to the bottom." Everyone is doing the best that they can given the current situation, so why not adjust the attitude to make your trips more enjoyable?

And no, I wouldn't cross your picket line.

 

[Sol Rosenberg]

Foreverflyer said that if you don't like your job, quit. I totally agree with that statement. However, I personally feel that Foreverflyer is confusing the fact that just because some pilots whine alot about pay/QOL issues, they can't enjoy being professional pilots and love their job. Maybe I'm wrong, but I personally don't know of any airline pilot who has ever quit for any reason other than pay/QOL issues. Now I'm sure there are exceptions out there of course, but I'm saying that I havent heard of a pilot quitting because he/she lost the passion for being a pilot. The pilots that I do know of who have gotten out of this profession did it because of substandard wages . When you have 3 kids, a mortgage and you're wife dosent work, it's mathmatically impossible to make it on Regional FO pay. (*disclaimer* I'm sure there have been exceptions)
I personally wish I made more $$ and of course I've done my share of whining, and so has every other crewmember I've ever flown with, but I still believe I am in the best profession in the world and I love my job. JMHO

 

[Air Biscuit]

I hate to jump into the middle of a pissing contest, but in Foreverflyer's defense, I got the same impression when I read this thread. Simply enjoying your job, and expecting your co-workers to do the same does not make one a potential scab. I don't think that he was suggesting that we enjoy making no money, but was merely saying to enjoy the flying when you are at work, instead of being miserable all the time.

Most people have families to feed, but I have noticed that the happiest pilots are the ones who don't dwell on "the race to the bottom." Everyone is doing the best that they can given the current situation, so why not adjust the attitude to make your trips more enjoyable?

And no, I wouldn't cross your picket line.

I agree with what you are saying, but that is not the way in which foreverflyer came across in his post. I agree with making the most out of the situation that you're in, which I do along with I'm sure the rest of us on here that like to vent. The problem lies in the fact that alot of pilots don't care to fight and make things better. Draw lines in the sand and vote no for sh!tty contracts. Put pressure on managements when the time is right instead of a play nice approach because after all "this is just business" attitude. To just sit back and have the mentality that being a regional pilot is just peachy is the reason we are in this race to the bottom bringing down mainline pay towards ours. Pilots are way to accepting that being "regional" pilots somehow means we are worth less doing the same job. I don't have that mentality, I'm sorry.

 

[atrdriver]

And I get to ask "Wind Check?" at every airport. Bye Bye--General Lee

Is that you??

 

[pilotyip]

For Air B

What would you have management do to pay you more? Raise fares across the board in order to pay all employees more, no that will not work the consumers will go someplace else, Oh! How about reducing market share concentrate on the money making high yield routes, whoops! that would mean a reduction in force, and you might loose your Capt.’s seat. So how would you go about getting more money for you and your airline? They all want to make money, but no one seems to have the answer. I still think $100K/yr for doing something you like is a great job. And no I did not cross the line.