VOR Loitering

[AJL5236]

Is it legal to practice VOR holding patterns in VFR conditions without talking to approach control. I remember reading something and it stated that it was not looked highly upon, but is it illegal? If it is illegal, can someone provide me with the information in where to find the text.
Thank you.

 

[wmudriver]

a recommendation in the AIM

I have never heard of a reg. against VOR loitering (doesn't mean there isn't one) but its in the AIM (4-4-14) about exercising extreme vigilance around a VOR since it is a common meeting point.

 

[avbug]

Only if flying under conditions requiring a specific clearance (eg, IFR, Class B airspace, etc) will you have any restrictions about practicing holds over a VOR.

If you are able to participate with VFR radar advisories ("flight following"), it's better for the controllers for traffic separation; at least you're working with the controller...but you aren't required to.

 

[nosehair]

FWIW, I never talk to controllers when I am practicing holding with a new student. Unless, of course, I am in an airspace requiring controller communication. But holding over a vor with a new student requires me to talk and control. ATC controllers want to do too much controlling. Now, once the student can get the concept and has a little basic skill, then I like to throw in the controller to make it more "real life".

 

[Timebuilder]

In my area, we have a unique combination of ingredients. We have the PTW VOR right next to the nuke plant, adjacent to the Philly mode C veil, and under the inbound corridor to PHL.

Consequently, I always talk to the TRACON guys at the big airport and let them know who is apparently circling the power plant, and why.

It isn't specifically illegal, but you always need to be cautious.

As you can see, I am cautious for a variety of reasons.