USMC/Nvy physical flight requirements

[Tryful]

Can anybody give me some insight to whether a hearing loss will prevent me from flying with the Navy or the Marine Corps? If it makes any difference I currently hold a first class medical if that is comparable.

My hearing loss is way up in the high frequency range 1000-1500hz of about 30db. This has been on my mind for years I'm finnaly in the position to go to Platoon Leadership class while in college and I want to pursue a commision and hopefully fly something for the Corps.

Also unforetnately I don't know what the vision requirments are now either, my vision is 20/40 in my left and 20/20 in my right so I don't know how that will affect things either.

If any pilots or flight surgeons could give me some insight on this I would deeply appreciate it. Its a huge career decsion for me, right now I've decided I'm going to enlist in the Corps reserves to serve my country period, but I want to know if I have a chance of achieving a commision for flying otherwise I just may stay Marine NCO period. I just don't know I'd appreciate some insight on this.

Tyler

PS if you need a more indepth actual reading of my hearing loss I will happily provide it for you.

 

[jstock]

USMC aviation

Tyler,
I am planning on attending my first 6week plc class this summer, and as I undestand it you will be ok with your vision. I believe they will take up to 20/40 and be able to correct it with rk. I don't know about you hearing. What has your oso said?


good luck
jeff

 

[Tryful]

My OSO supposively said he has no way of finding out which I think is BS I think hes just trying to get me to totally commit at the moment which I'm going to do anyways. But I'd like to know if I have a shot at flying ya know? I'm gonna try to find an answer at MEPS if I can we'll see.

Hey by the way whats your workout regime? I'm trying to get myself in a semblance of physical shape and right now my main obstacles are the pullups and the 3 miles in 28. Never been much of a runner Do you have any specific routine that got you to that goal?

Tyler

 

[Hugh Jorgan]

Your OSO is a liar (a lazy one at that).

I had a 35 db loss at the 4000 hz range when I got my NAMI physical (and every physical that followed) and had no problem.

So long as your vision is correctable to 20/20, you will have no problem with 20/40 at your physical.

Good Luck.

 

[jstock]

physical

ty,
I also am fighting the d@mn pull ups and run. My goal though is to be able to complete the ocs work out before going. I recieved a sample of what we will be able to expect as far as the routine. If you havn't recieved that ask your oso or let me know and I will mail a copy to you.
I have talked with a few that have gone through, and they recommed running beyond the 3 miles while training for obvious reasons.
for pull ups I shoot for a total of 30 at the gym. I can only reach about 11 on the first try so I wait 2 min. and go again and get 8 maybe. I repeat until I reach 30 total, and just when I feel that I can't get another on each set I will stop midway down and go back up.
For the run I just run my a$$ off, and it sucks, but I am seeing results. I run a min of 20 min every other day and try to get at least one 3 mile run in each week.
hopefully some current or ex Marines can ad to this and let us know what has worked for them, but PM me if you need that Ocs scheduel

 

[pony251]

physical reqmts

Tyler, I agree your oso is a liar if he says he doesn't know the requirements. They all do, it is there freakin job to know. Your hearing loss may or may not be a disqualifier. I do not believe you have to have perfect 20/20 vision anymore to get in. It used to be that way but things have changed a lot in the last 10 years. I currently have 20/40 in one eye and it is no problem. Uncle Sammy will even give you cool aviator glasses for free.
By the way, if you go to OCS and you are not in great shape, you will be in a world of hurt. You should be running 3 miles a day at least 3-4 times a week. You better be able to do 100 crunches. you can get by with 11 pullups, but you better be working on it. If I were you I would throw in some 4-5 mile runs. Trust me, there will be guys who can run 17 min 3 miles. If you are only running 23 min, who do you think they will start to single out. Anyways, good luck.

 

[Tryful]

Well we have come to the conclusion that my OSO is lazy so I think I'm gonna start talking to the SSgt. that really runs things down there haha. I can't say anything I plan on enlisting for a short term as well

But anyways yah I know I'm bustin' my butt currently I run every other day while inbetween I do my muscle stuff pullups, situps, pushups. Basically as many as I can do. I think I'm going to have a huge advantage by enlisting first just get the expierience an perspective of an enlisted Marine so I can better lead my Marines latter down the road. Also I'll be in **CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED** good shape as well and PLC will be a cake walk.

But as far as my hearing I think I'm going to take it to another local OSO to see if he can find out for me.

Tyler
Semper Fi

 

[Jafar]

I have a few questions for you, Tryful.

Do I understand correctly that you are enlisting in the reserve right now? Maybe I misunderstood. Short term? Umm... what? From what I understand there is no "short term" in the Marine Corps. The shortest contract you'll get is 4 years active with 2 or four years in the IRR. For reserve contracts it's 6 and 2, or 4 and 4 if your wave the G.I. bill. How old are you? When is your expected grad date? (college) What city are you out of?

I am an enlisted Marine serving in the reserve right now. I'm also a candidate and I've been through the Junior OCS course. As stated, vision requirements are currently 20/40 corrected to 20/20. As for hearing, go to MEPs and take the hearing test. Then you'll know for sure. No reason to speculate now. If I remember correctly you are tested in 6 different frequencies and you can be out by like 25 on each. 0 being perfect in each one, and it goes up in increments of 5.

My biggest confusion... what's the priority here, your enlistment or your candidacy? Are you talking with both sides at once? That's what I was doing as well. I ended up enlisting out of high school and although the experience has been nothing but positive, don't let these people fool you into thinking you HAVE to enlist first. "Oh you'll be such a better officer... " yadda, yadda so on and so forth. So what does that mean? The other 80% of the officer corps that didn't enlist first are somehow lesser? Bullsh*t. If you want to be an enlisted Marine then enlist. Yes it will help a potential career as an officer. Don't think that it's necessarily the best way of going about it. PM me if you want further info on this subject.

As for this PT stuff, Pull Ups are probably the hardest to improve. Once you are doing 10-12 or so, start doing them with resistence. Throw on a weight belt with a 25 strapped to it. That's how I finally got up to 20. But you really want to be doing more than 20, because doing them at OCS with Sergeant Instructors screaming and telling you "that one didn't count!" is a whole different ball game. Running is my biggest problem. I'm a slow ass runner. Working on it...

Oh yeah, one more thing. Don't think for a second that completing boot camp and being an enlisted Marine is going to make PLC a "cake walk" Not by a long shot. I went through with other Marines that were getting there as$es kicked all over the place by the college boys. Physically OCS is FAR more difficult than boot camp. Yes, emotionally and mentally it's no big deal after boot camp, but the PT is serious business. Boot camp is designed to get kids who spent the last four years of high school sitting around drinking beer into shape. At OCS you need to ARRIVE in BETTER shape than the average boot Marine out of recruit training. The Moral: Be in crazy good shape.

 

[Tryful]

Jafar,

Well heres my plan so to speak.

I plan on enlisting in the reserves yes I'm aware the minimum contract is 6 years for the reserve. But my plan is to stay in while in college then switch over and get my leave from the reserves to go into PLC or OCS I have yet to decide to be honest. I'm still trying to sort out all this stuff. But short and simple yes I do want to be an enlisted Marine it is just something I want to acomplish with my life.

As far as my age goes I'm 18 and scheduled to graduate UVSC June 2006. Tenative of course.

I went down to MEPS when I was in highschool and put it off becasue they were blowing me off I basically failed it becasue I needed a wavier. Does that answer your question for that? If your correct on your 25 decibals. I failed big time, I have a loss of about 60db in the higher frequencys. I'm going to assume theres no way I'll ever get a pilots slot then.

My main priority right now is to become a Marine either way, enlisted or commision. Just trying to keep my options open. I just feel for myself going through the enlisted side of the house will just give me more expirience.

Right now I don't know what my main obstacle is, I've got some weight to loose if I want to make my running and my pullups easier. Right now to be honest I struggle with both, need to get my body in tip top shape. Busting my butt for sure infact I'm going to work out here in about 15min.

Tyler