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Interviewing for the pool

No future class dates set at this time, we are interviewing to fill a pool up to about 12 pilots. Turnover in the poll is fairly high, 3 have dropped out to take other jobs. So there is some hiring going on out there. It could be the pilot shortage is coming again. The $38 goes to the company that manages our on-line application process and does not come to USA Jet. We will be closing our application window pretty soon. You do not need a college degree, but you must be able to fly an airplane, and we consider PFT as a way for some pilots to build hours and gain expereince and have hired PFTer's in the past who did a good job for us, before moving on to the LLC's
 
Kit Darby and Gulfstream?

"It could be the pilot shortage is coming again."

and

"we consider PFT as a way for some pilots to build hours and gain expereince and have hired PFTer's in the past"

How long until USA Jet starts advertising their new PFT program?
 
PFT?

Since when have we hired PFT? I don't know of any PFTer's here. Outside of a very rare exception here recently, most of our pilots come from 135, 121 regionals, or the military. He wasn't even PFT he just was a low time pilot.
 
Hi!

All:
I think pilotyip was referring to having to pay the $38 for the test as "PFT". You have to pay the $38 to be considered for a job at USA Jet.

pilotyip:
The term "PFT" is normally used for airlines that have pilots pay for all of their training at their knew airline, which at USAJet would be approximately $18K (the amount in the training contract). The traditional "PFT" would be where new pilots pay $18K up front, and then if they complete their initial training they would be put online and start getting paid.

So, I don't think you meant "PFT" in that sense.

Cliff
GRB
 
Think those questions are lame?

Pick up the latest Air Inc. Airline Careers Mag.
Its on USA jet. Talk about a lame A$$ article. Oh yea nice, airbrushed DC-9. Don't know if it was USA or the mag people but it was pretty chessy.

see ya
SD
 
Re: Interviewing for the pool

pilotyip said:
It could be the pilot shortage is coming again.... You do not need a college degree, but you must be able to fly an airplane, and we consider PFT as a way for some pilots to build hours and gain expereince and have hired PFTer's in the past who did a good job for us, before moving on to the LLC's


You ARE kidding, right?

BTW, why do you reference your perceived worthlessness of a college degree in every post you make?
 
Experience with college degrees

We have nothing against a college degree, we will hire pilots with degrees the same as pilots without a degree. We do not ask about college when we interview, because it has nothing to do with flying an airplane. During the interview and testing it is impossible to tell who has a degree and who does not. Raw test scores on our screening tests show no relationship between a non-college graduate and a college graduate. Unless they took some type of technical training while in college, Engineering, Physics, etc. Some of our non-degreed pilots have finished their degrees on line while working here, plus some have gotten their masters. There is no relationship between a college degree and success in checking out in any of our airplanes. I see pilots in debt up to there eye balls, in their mid 30's still looking for their first entry level job, where if they had started flying out of high school and got some flight time they would be much better off. I know, I know, it opens doors, you not need to know anything, just have the degree, so do your degree on line while building time and get an edge up on your career, that is my recommended path. But what would I know after 40 years in this business.
 
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New Hire class stats

New Hire DA-20 F/O's class starting 3-08-04. All have ATP's, average flight time 3000 TT, 1500 MEL, over 1000 MEL PIC, three have turbine time, two have type ratings, two have degrees, two do not have degrees, All have held a part 135 PIC letter, except one ex-Military. All great guys, all were screened through our on-line application process.
 
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Re: Experience with college degrees

pilotyip said:
We have nothing against a college degree, we will hire pilots with degrees the same as pilots without a degree. We do not ask about college when we interview, because it has nothing to do with flying an airplane. During the interview and testing it is impossible to tell who has a degree and who does not. Raw test scores on our screening tests show no relationship between a non-college graduate and a college graduate. Unless they took some type of technical training while in college, Engineering, Physics, etc. Some of our non-degreed pilots have finished their degrees on line while working here, plus some have gotten their masters. There is no relationship between a college degree and success in checking out in any of our airplanes. I see pilots in debt up to there eye balls, in their mid 30's still looking for their first entry level job, where if they had started flying out of high school and got some flight time they would be much better off. I know, I know, it opens doors, you not need to know anything, just have the degree, so do your degree on line while building time and get an edge up on your career, that is my recommended path. But what would I know after 40 years in this business.


Between you preaching about a college education being useless, and bobbysamd crying age discrimination, I think there's nothing left to talk about. I'm glad you guys know everything, because the rest of us obviously have a lot to learn.

With all due respect, that college education might have helped your spelling and sentence structure, which in turn might have helped others understand what you are trying to communicate. Communication IS important, and if you can't do it, you aren't as effective as you could be.
 
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ouch! outted....I'm out before I'm next...
 
college degree worthless?

Mr. English, I have never stated a college degree is worthless, I have only stated its importance in an aviation career is misplaced. I have stated going into a four year on-campus program may not be the best courses to follow if your career goal is to be a professional pilot. I have even admitted that the college degree may open doors at a few select employers. I have offered an alternate to the traditional four year college degree program for prospective professional pilots and that is build TJ PIC and get your degree on the side. The airlines do not care what your degree is in or where it came from. I have stated if you want to go college and get a real degree, good for you, the country will benefit from your efforts. I have stated that a college degree has nothing to do with flying an airplane, I am getting support from many readers that this is true. So your statement that I think a college degree is worthless is incorrect. BTW You know I have a couple of degrees from well-known universities. Your input on e-mail spelling, sentence structure, etc. again shows how irrelevant a college degree is in developing those skills. This is e-mail not a term paper and you are not my English professor.
 
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