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US To Sell F-22s To Allies

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Typical. Remember, we also sold F-15's to Israel and Japan. There's so much exotic and classified hardware on the F-22, I don't know how they'd keep it quiet.

Sounds budgetary to me. Sell F-22's, make 'em cheaper, buy more for yourself.
 
Gorilla said:
Typical. Remember, we also sold F-15's to Israel and Japan. There's so much exotic and classified hardware on the F-22, I don't know how they'd keep it quiet.

Sounds budgetary to me. Sell F-22's, make 'em cheaper, buy more for yourself.

Shack.
 
Gorilla said:
Typical. Remember, we also sold F-15's to Israel and Japan. There's so much exotic and classified hardware on the F-22, I don't know how they'd keep it quiet.

Sounds budgetary to me. Sell F-22's, make 'em cheaper, buy more for yourself.

And we sold front line Naval fighters to Iran once too. Although I often
wondered if they had an export version with much of the US and NATO
classified hardware removed.
 
What a crock. A small handfull of three and four star generals greedily paving the way for their own retirement riches as Lockheed Martin employees or consultants. Meanwhile our grunts still don't have the resources they need to properly fight this war, which is even sadder when you consider their needs are not even pennies on the dollar compared to this F-22 debacle. And let's not even get started on the AF's decision to scuttle large portions of several MWS in favor of more F-22's. (The B-52 comes to mind.)
 
VaB said:
Never sold the Intruders, though. Those were the only ones that were really important.

Hahaha.. snap.

And we sold Tomcats (woulda been Eagles if the Shah had picked em) to a friendly gov't, PRIOR to the Shah being over thrown. The 14's were also sabbotaged by the Grumman employee's there too, prior to them leaving the country.
 
SIG600 said:
Hahaha.. snap.

And we sold Tomcats (woulda been Eagles if the Shah had picked em) to a friendly gov't, PRIOR to the Shah being over thrown. The 14's were also sabbotaged by the Grumman employee's there too, prior to them leaving the country.

I'd heard that also. Is it true? There would have been nobody more capable of trashing a fighter on a subtle level than the manufacturer's avionics technicians. I've got a mental picture... "Hee hee, let's pull all the LRU-14's, the avionics bus data router units, and toss them into the latrine trench out back. Without the router units, none of the avionics talk to each other, and it'll still fly, but not be able to fight." Something like that! :D Good job Grumman boys!
 
Gorilla said:
I'd heard that also. Is it true? There would have been nobody more capable of trashing a fighter on a subtle level than the manufacturer's avionics technicians. I've got a mental picture... "Hee hee, let's pull all the LRU-14's, the avionics bus data router units, and toss them into the latrine trench out back. Without the router units, none of the avionics talk to each other, and it'll still fly, but not be able to fight." Something like that! :D Good job Grumman boys!

I read Adm. Gilcrest's book "Tomcats!" a long time ago... read it in there.
 

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