US Airways Jets for Jobs

[Furloughed80]

Anyone familiar with LOA#91 and the Jets for Jobs program with US Airways? I am assuming PSA and Piedmont pilots would be familiar with this topic.

My main question is do furloughed US Airways pilots join as Captains? Thank you in advance.

 

[mdanno808]

Yes, a friend of mine was furloughed from US Airways, and was given a job at PSA as a direct entry captain.

 

[KeroseneSnorter]

Anyone familiar with LOA#91 and the Jets for Jobs program with US Airways? I am assuming PSA and Piedmont pilots would be familiar with this topic.

My main question is do furloughed US Airways pilots join as Captains? Thank you in advance.

50% of the Jet seats offered to U pilots. Both C/A and F/O. Next to no takers on the F/O slots. C/A is spotty depending on the airline.

Last I saw Mesa and PSA are now closed out on the J4J positions. All pilots have passed on the positions at least twice.

Still Active for TSA. Do not know status of CHQ.

U pilots are artificial Captains at the J4J carriers. Meaning that they hold C/A seats and pay ,but are junior to all other existing native pilots. They will stay bottom Captains until all F/O's prior to their actual start date are upgraded to Capt.

Mid Atlantic goes to U pilots first, then to the Wholly Owned pilots after that, then to street hires. All U pilots have passed on the F/O positions. Most that have not gotten on elsewhere will probably go to MDA when called. Last time I saw the MDA Captians were down to Jan 99 hire dates. So roughly 1000 potential takers for the future positions. (I would guess probably not more than 300 or so now that they have been out 3+ years. A large number of the furloughees are at other carriers now. SWA, JB, Airtran, UPS etc.)

 

[Weasil]

good reply but not all correct.


We have a slotted bidding system. Originally all 70 seat jets were to be flown by J4J pilots. The agreement that was settled on allows for 50% of all jets to be flown by J4J and depending on how many 70 seat jets we get some of the J4J pilots get a slotted seniority spot for the purposes of bidding.. For example The most senior captain in dayton right now is a PSA guy and the number two captain in dayton is the number one J4J in that base. So essentially there are two independent seniority lists which are merged together. The more 70 seat jets we get the more slots they get, so not all of them are sitting reserve.

Also, the J4J is only closed to pilots current on the APL (affected pilots list). ANy future furloughs would open up the J4J program again (at least at PSA).

 

[sluminginpit]

I don't think any future layoffs would open up PSA again, there would have to be positions available.

Also the slotted bidding is correct they have a certain number of lines. There are currently guys from U with 2.5 years seniorty at group bidding senior to 10 year PSA guy's!

 

[Weasil]

you are correct as far as I know. Any future pilots hired at PSA under the J4J program would only be able to come here if a seat became available. This is not a flowback where they could actually displace an existing captain to the right seat. They are currently entitled to 50% of the flying though and should there be a future furlough, each time a captain slot became available it may well be filled by a J4J preventing a psa upgrade. At least that's how I understand it... i'm sure I don't have all the details.

 

[i'mbatman]

there are a few J4J FO's at CHQ but they should be upgrading soon