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US AIR plans to "shift" CRJ-900's

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c-wood75

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there an article on aviation daily's website about their plans for MESA's 900's but i dont have the 5 dollars to read the article. so what does it say? hopefully they are getting booted.
 
Found the article Free Of Charge on good ole flightinfo--Thanks JAY bird..

Mesa replacing US AIR mainline Flying.....wonderful.




Merged Airline Will Cut Transcons, Shift CRJ-900s
Aviation Daily
05/23/2005, page 03
Steven Lott

The merged America West and US Airways plan to trim seat capacity about 10%, with a significant portion coming from US Airways' transcontinental network and the remainder from frequency cuts in both airlines' systems, The DAILY has learned.

Executives on Friday shed some light on the fleet and network plan for the merged carrier, which it hopes will generate as much as $400 million a year after the integration is complete. The combined airline's fleet will drop by about 60 aircraft from about 417 planes to a mainline operation of 361 planes (see detailed fleet and network table, Pages 7-8). Most of the fleet cuts will come from US Airways, as the airline expects to return 25 more planes to the lessor by yearend 2006, on top of the 46 planes it already announced would be cut.

Excluding the 25 planes leaving the US Airways fleet, executives told analysts Friday of their plan to cut the remaining 35 planes from the US Airways and America West. Of the 35 planes, 10 will come from America West and 25 from US Airways. About two-thirds of the 35 planes will be Boeing 737s and one-third will be Airbus narrowbodies.

The merged airline will eventually drop the 10 767-200s flying internationally for US Airways, as it plans to operate only Airbus A330s across the Atlantic, to be replaced in 2011 with A350s. Also figured into the tally are 13 more A320 family deliveries previously ordered by America West. America West deferred its other Airbus orders by about two years.

One of the biggest schedule changes will come in the transcontinental network. Scott Kirby, America West executive VP-marketing and sales, plans to cut US Airways' transcon routes to half the number operated last summer. Through the due diligence process, Kirby reported that US Airways' east-west routes have been a "significant loss-making entity in recent history." America West will do its part by dropping the remaining non-hub transcon routes, such as New York-Los Angeles.

The strategy is to focus on mostly local coast-to-coast traffic instead of fighting for low-fare connecting, transcon traffic. "We want to size the airline right for today's environment," said CEO Doug Parker. He sees no more significant cuts in US Airways' Charlotte, Pittsburgh and Philadelphia hubs.

The rest of the capacity cuts will be spread throughout the system from reduced frequencies and markets. The merged airline also will make some changes in its regional feeder network. There are now 38 CRJ-900s flying for America West, mainly on the West Coast, but 18 of the planes will move to the East Coast to replace some US Airways 737 flying. The 57 US Airways Dash 8 turboprops will keep flying for the merged airline, as Kirby said they are currently profitable and offer a lot of flexibility.

US Airways previously negotiated a deal to sell its MidAtlantic unit to Republic Airways, and Kirby expects that deal to go through, but nothing is final. As part of Air Wisconsin's $125 million equity commitment to US Airways, the regional carrier will replace Mesa Air flying for US Airways. Mesa, however, is expected to fly for the merged carrier under its standing contract with America West. -SL
 
I believe that part of the AWAC USAir agreement said something about AWAC eventually operating CRJ900's for them.
 
c-wood75 said:
Mesa replacing US AIR mainline Flying.....wonderful.

As part of Air Wisconsin's $125 million equity commitment to US Airways, the regional carrier will replace Mesa Air flying for US Airways.
-SL

Ya know, every time you try to toss a fresh dog turd over the fence, you still have a handful of feces afterward. So it goes with JO. Hello, Air Whiskey! (Uh, got any handi-wipes?)
 
CRJDog said:
Well if Mesa 900's are coming to the east then we can only hope it is temporary.

More furloughs for mainline is in store. Why pay mainline pilots to fly 737's when unexperienced punks willingly fly a brand new little jet for piss poor wages and benefits?
 
Dodge said:
More furloughs for mainline is in store. Why pay mainline pilots to fly 737's when unexperienced punks willingly fly a brand new little jet for piss poor wages and benefits?
You fly the 146 and have the b@lls to open your mouth ? Gettin' rich on the 146,are you ? Or did you forget to log out somewhere ?
 
He is definitely making a lot more on the 146 than any 900 driver. However I believe the 146s are going away soon so he'll be down on a 200 before too long. The pay on that should be pretty close to 900 pay due to his probable longevity at Air Wisconsin if he's a CA on the 146.

I'm not trying to rip on the 900 drivers- just stating some facts. Most regional pilots are stuck where they are at for at least the near term if not the long term with bigger and bigger "RJs" coming to the small jet providers and we better all start sticking together to keep the downward trend from going much lower. None of us can control which company gets which contract to undercut some other company in this crappy environment, but we can stop ripping eachother for the management's decisions that we cannot control. Many substandard contracts are being signed or forced on pilots now- not just Mesa. Some groups have stood up and bettered there old contracts, but I honestly believe we are all worth more than the crap that is getting signed now. Big city bus drivers make more than many ailine captains at the regional level and if I'm going to be looked at as a glorified bus driver, shouldn't I at least make bus driver pay?
 
"You fly the 146 and have the b@lls to open your mouth ? Gettin' rich on the 146,are you ? Or did you forget to log out somewhere ?"


Wow... down boys. He doesn't fly the 146 for Air Willy. He flies the AVRO for MESABA.

Please don't think an Air Willy pilot is involved in this fight...
 
Dang, Bluestreak.

Uh no, not getting rich at Mesaba flying any airplane. Only the lawyers and directors are doing that. The reason I am not paid what I think we should be paid is because of the regionals hiring all these low time CFI people who think it is way cool to be in a little CRJ or something. I know of this well. I thought it was way cool to get hired with low time into a Saab 6 years ago. If only the pilots at the CFI level were educated on the airline profession. I wish I would have been.
 
Dodge said:
Dang, Bluestreak.

Uh no, not getting rich at Mesaba flying any airplane. Only the lawyers and directors are doing that. The reason I am not paid what I think we should be paid is because of the regionals hiring all these low time CFI people who think it is way cool to be in a little CRJ or something. I know of this well. I thought it was way cool to get hired with low time into a Saab 6 years ago. If only the pilots at the CFI level were educated on the airline profession. I wish I would have been.

Why don't you suck a fart out of my a$$. I dont work for Mesa, Freedom or any Avro operators so dont assume I do. I just wanted to tell you to suck a fart out of my a$$ because you whine alot. Peace, Im Out.

Holla

PS. This is my 1st post of many to come so dont ask stupid questions or I will probably respond.
 
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All of us low time hires to the regionals would prefer this type of flying stayed at mainline. I doubt anyone would disagree unless they are terribly short sighted. Blame someone else. Like the sub-poverty wages and lack of healthcare given to 9/10 flight instructors. I don't care if it's a shiny jet or a beat up turboprop, I wanted more than what I was given as an instructor.


So fly part135 freight, you say. Ok, I did. And I didn't see my wife for weeks as I was moved around. When I did, we were on different sleep schedules and it was tough. I made about $30k a year working 60 duty hours a week. I'll still take a regional over that.


You seem to forget that there's more to moving up then just holding out for a jet. It's about having your life returned to you after years of school, school loans, and misdirection by them as to what lies ahead. I doubt many in the flight schools now are fully aware of what dues are left to be paid after graduation. And who is going to tell them? The schools? Haha.
 
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The contest is officially over.

Soulcracker has won. This person is without doubt, the gayest of all. Congrats on your achievement.
 
labbats said:
All of us low time hires to the regionals would prefer this type of flying stayed at mainline. I doubt anyone would disagree unless they are terribly short sighted. Blame someone else. Like the sub-poverty wages and lack of healthcare given to 9/10 flight instructors. I don't care if it's a shiny jet or a beat up turboprop, I wanted more than what I was given as an instructor.


So fly part135 freight, you say. Ok, I did. And I didn't see my wife for weeks as I was moved around. When I did, we were on different sleep schedules and it was tough. I made about $30k a year working 60 duty hours a week. I'll still take a regional over that.


You seem to forget that there's more to moving up then just holding out for a jet. It's about having your life returned to you after years of school, school loans, and misdirection by them as to what lies ahead. I doubt many in the flight schools now are fully aware of what dues are left to be paid after graduation. And who is going to tell them? The schools? Haha.

Well said...well said
 

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