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UPS plans to hire 100 pilots
Most to be based at Louisville hub

By Wayne Tompkins
The Courier-Journal

United Parcel Service said yesterday it plans to hire at least 100 additional pilots, most of whom will be based in Louisville.

Spokesman Mark Giuffre said new airplanes and expectations of more international flying created the need for additional flight crews. The pilots will be added through next year.

UPS employs nearly 2,500 pilots, about 40 percent of whom have homes in Louisville. Pilots typically earn between $138,000 and $172,000 a year, with the pilots' union providing the lower number and UPS the higher figure.

Giuffre said the new pilots would be based in Louisville, Ontario, Calif., and Miami.

"I don't have a specific breakdown, but I would say the majority of them" would be Louisville based, Giuffre said. Louisville International Airport is the home of UPS's sprawling Worldport complex, its main package-sorting hub.

Yesterday's announcement comes against the backdrop of contract negotiations between UPS and its pilots, which have taken place over the past two years. Talks are set to resume next week, Giuffre said.

The pilots' last contract was ratified in 1998 after 25 months of talks. A phone message left for Tom Nicholson, president of the Independent Pilots Association, was not immediately returned late yesterday. The association represents UPS fliers.

The United States and China have agreed to significantly expand aviation rights, but the U.S. Department of Transportation still has not permanently awarded those rights to UPS, Giuffre said.

"We're really basing this on anticipated international growth," he said of yesterday's hiring announcement. In the wake of the agreement between the two countries, UPS said in June that it will "strongly consider" building an air hub in China and could increase flights and package traffic between Louisville and that country.

In September, the Transportation Department tentatively gave UPS 12 new weekly flights to China as part of the pact with China.

UPS, which has six flights to Shanghai, said it would use the first six new flights to add service there. The remaining six would be new flights to Guangzhou, inland from Hong Kong. UPS will connect Shanghai to Japan for the first time with nonstop service.

The 2005 flights will allow UPS to offer nonstop service from the United States to Guangzhou for the first time.

UPS began direct air service to China in 2001, flying once a week from Louisville to China via Anchorage, Alaska. Five additional UPS flights to China leave each week from Ontario, Calif. UPS officials said flights between the nations are operating at near capacity.
 
From a Q&A with Rick Barr, Flight District Mgr:

Q. When will we start hiring?

A. To allow for appropriate training, the process of hiring the additional crewmembers will begin immediately. In general, it takes approximately four to five months to properly train pilots to be cockpit-ready, and we forecast a need for more crewmembers in the near future.

Q. Is the Menlo acquisition partly responsible for this?

A. No. The acquisition of Menlo Worldwide Forwarding will be completed during the fourth quarter of 2004. The integration planning is in its early stages and many of the specific operational plans only now are being examined. It is much too early to discuss any potential hiring needs related to the acquisition.
 
This announcement came as a welcome surprise to most of us. The www.upsjobs.com web site, where you normally submit your resume through, isn't showing the openings yet.

Don't forget, there's about 75 people that were in the pool when 9/11 happened. I spoke to an HR person last year, and he said those people would not be forgotten. We'll see.

I predict a big hiring cycle this coming year. Notice the announcement was "at least" 100 pilots. UPS is very conservative, but when they hire, they usually hire big (1994; 1997-2000).

China is huge for us, and the propellant for this hiring news. New hires will likely go to the right seat if history repeats itself, upgrades will be plenty, and our FedEx A380 competitor airplane should be finally announced.

For pay and retirement info at UPS, head over to http://www.airlinepilotpay.com/ups/ups.htm
 
I heard UPS promotes from within. If I were to get a job throwing boxes, could this help cut back on some of the time it would take building hours and get hired sooner than later?
 
767-300ER

I notice you said "new hires to the right seat". I thought everyone started on the panel and moved up from there, or are there less panel seats out there any more?

Thanks for posting the good news
 
Do they have posted mins?
If so what are they?
 
RiddleMan80 said:
I heard UPS promotes from within. If I were to get a job throwing boxes, could this help cut back on some of the time it would take building hours and get hired sooner than later?
You should be a shoe-in being from ERAU and with that MD90 sim time and the airline internship under your belt:D
 
Throw boxes first? Promotion from within is true about UPS, but don't bother throwing boxes to get in here as a pilot. Yet to be proven to be an effective, reliable method.

Mins: Not sure about the mins.

Hiring into the FO seat: During the last hiring cycle many pilots went straight to the 757 domestic to save on training costs (FE plus FO upgrade). Not everyone, but some did.
 
awesome

767-300ER said:
Throw boxes first? Promotion from within is true about UPS, but don't bother throwing boxes to get in here as a pilot. Yet to be proven to be an effective, reliable method.

Mins: Not sure about the mins.

Hiring into the FO seat: During the last hiring cycle many pilots went straight to the 757 domestic to save on training costs (FE plus FO upgrade). Not everyone, but some did.

UPS hiring pilots is welcome news.
:D
 
Voteno, what about UND graduates with no internship or MD90 sim time, but been working for a 121 airline for 4 years?
 
Just talked to a lady in the hiring department at UPS. States that FE written not really needed, but you might want to have one to be competitive. Going to be very very selective. Still didn't tell me what they really want. I've got 4 years on the ramp at UPS. Hope that means something.
 
The Diesel 8's

Just wondering if Upsico still flies the 8's overseas? Where too if they still do?

Doesn't UPS have bases in Europe and Asia as well? Just curious.
 
Hookin up a brotha...

Would a UPS pilot with a little free time and info mind PM-ing me? I've got a couple of questions.

Thanks in advance.
 
Don't plan on getting a pilot position as an internal candidate unless you have the qualifications to be hired "off the street." I left UPS after 8 years in many different positions including management because I did not have the required 1000 hours pic turbine in a crew aircraft with a mgtow greater than 20000 lbs. There were two other guys that left about the same time I did that had high total times but little to no turbine to gain the experience necessary to return.

In the early 90's there was a "backdoor" that allowed some managment and current employees to get flight crew positions without having the 4000 TT 1000 PIC turbine. That "backdoor" closed in the mid 90's. Unless times have changed in the last couple years I would guess that policy is still the same.

UPS is a great company, with excellent benefits and good people. Like any large company it has some downsides, but if you get a job there you should have a great career with strong stability.

Good luck to all those that are qualified - I wish I could be there with you.
 

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